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04-14-2009, 10:30 PM
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Unapolagetic Liberal Thugster
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Loopholes Let Gun Smuggling to Mexico Flourish
NYT: Loopholes let gun smuggling to Mexico flourish - The New York Times- msnbc.com
"HOUSTON - In July 2006, John Phillip Hernandez, a 24-year-old unemployed machinist who lived with his parents, walked into a giant sporting goods store here and plunked $2,600 in cash on a glass display counter. A few minutes later, Mr. Hernandez walked out with three military-style rifles.
One of those rifles was recovered seven months later in Acapulco, Mexico, where it had been used by drug cartel gunmen to attack the offices of the Guerrero State attorney general, court documents say. Four police officers and three secretaries were killed.
The federal system for tracking gun sales, crafted over the years to avoid infringements on Second Amendment rights, makes it difficult to quickly spot suspicious trends and to identify people buying for smugglers, law enforcement officials say.
As a result, in some states along the Southwest border where firearms are lightly regulated, gun smugglers can evade detection for months or years. In Texas, New Mexico and Arizona, dealers can sell an unlimited number of rifles to anyone with a driver’s license and a clean criminal record without reporting the sales to the government. At gun shows in these states, there is even less regulation. Private sellers, unlike licensed dealers, are not obligated to record the buyer’s name, much less report the sale to the A.T.F."
You wingnuts are right..legally obtained guns are never used in crimes 
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04-14-2009, 10:33 PM
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We'll keep better track of our exports (guns) if they keep better track of theirs (illegal aliens).
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04-14-2009, 10:36 PM
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Unapolagetic Liberal Thugster
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GOPATTA2D
We'll keep better track of our exports (guns) if they keep better track of theirs (illegal aliens).
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They aren't illegal when "they" are in Mexico but our guns are.
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04-14-2009, 10:39 PM
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Hopeychangeness DAMN IT!!!!!!!!
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So this man purposely broke the law and somehow our laws are to blame...

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04-14-2009, 10:41 PM
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Hopeychangeness DAMN IT!!!!!!!!
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By the way,licensed dealers must run background checks on all firearms sold....if the fedgov. drops the ball...
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04-14-2009, 10:43 PM
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Senior Member
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"I didn't take the "Blue" pill"
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Well we know the fedgov never drops the ball and is on top of everything.
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04-14-2009, 10:44 PM
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If the answer is Obama, the question was stupid
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oz in SC
By the way,licensed dealers must run background checks on all firearms sold....if the fedgov. drops the ball...
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democrats dont like it when the facts get in the way of their agenda.
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04-14-2009, 10:44 PM
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Unapolagetic Liberal Thugster
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oz in SC
So this man purposely broke the law and somehow our laws are to blame...

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You all claim that the laws are already strong enough...They quite simply aren't.
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04-14-2009, 10:46 PM
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Unapolagetic Liberal Thugster
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Quote:
Originally Posted by monkeywrenching
democrats dont like it when the facts get in the way of their agenda.
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No, we don't craft the facts to fit our agenda. We consider them all..
"Private sellers, unlike licensed dealers, are not obligated to record the buyer’s name, much less report the sale to the A.T.F."
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04-14-2009, 10:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tank1906
They aren't illegal when "they" are in Mexico but our guns are.
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Their main export (illegal aliens) are not illegal when they are here? Thanks for clarifying that.
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