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The reason that secession talk has come up again is exactly the same reason it came up in 1860. At that time, population density in the north overtook political power and prowess in the south, and the rights and will of a geographical section of the country were alienated in legislature. The difference now is that it is the more urban areas of the country (aka New York and L.A.) that have the population centers to insure their will in government. This leads large segments of the population to falter in their confidence of the government, and to speculate on the rights they may be denied. Contrary to popular belief, the southern fighting man was not fighting for slavery, but against the federal government's intrusion into his daily life. He was more a steward for the constitution than Lincoln or Seward. We have been on a Federalist rampage ever since that has led to involvement in many foriegn wars, and infrigement and impeachment of many civil liberties. Both political parties are guilty. The constitution has turned into an historical rag that we use in history class to explain the revolution.
No, secession TALK (emphasis on all talk no action) has come up because Republicans got shown the door last November and they have no legitimate issues to run on. This is a bunch of RW Republicans trying to keep their names in the news, nothing more. Like an 8 year old acting out.
its not about your rights. its about having your people robbed raped and disenfranchised by the victor. talk to the old timers of the south. do you know vicksburg national park? that was my aunts farm. purchased for the handsome sum of 7 cents an acre imminent domain.
The Confederate Army really threw the civilian population of Vicksburg under the bus during that military campaign.
The Declaration of Independence is not the law of the land; the Constitution is. The colonists declared independence and then fought a war over it. If TX wants to fight a war with the federal government, like the South did back in the 1850's, then they have that right as well.
The US Constitution did not replace the Declaration of Independence, its an additional document which our country was founded upon.
heck I thought all Americans embraced this idea???
I bet if Montona called the RU for a little support in breaking away, some of you would crap a brick.
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It should be a very ripe time in our nation's history for a state to leave the union, esp Texas. The central government is essentially broke. Sugar Daddy funds from China will immediately stop flowing on the hint of secession, and more than enough troops have loyalties to the citizens of Texas over those of Uncle Sam to defect (with some modern equipment). Texas has more than enough natural resources to trade with once the Federal government's reserves are exhausted and they are forced to terminate any occupation force. Then there's the logistical nightmare of trying to control and occupy such a large land mass. If there's a time to do it, now is the time. It won't come without much sacrifice, but most of the financial and physical bleeding will be concentrated in DC.
Molon Labe!
Wow,lets put more effort in repairing the country,and less time trying create chaos with nonsense.
The US Constitution did not replace the Declaration of Independence, its an additional document which our country was founded upon.
You are absolutely right that the Declaration of Independence is one of our founding documents. However, it was created under the Continental Congress when the colonies were only loosely associated through the Articles of Confederation.
When the US Constitution was ratified, it superseded the Articles of Confederation, and everything done under the Continental Congress. That does not mean that the Declaration of Independence is any less historically significant, it just means that nothing created under the Continental Congress can be considered legally binding in the newly created United States.
Odd that people keep claiming that states can not leave the union and form their own government when the Declaration of Independence very clearly says this right exists..
IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776 The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America hen in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,
Leaving the union is abolishing the US government..
Overwhelming majority have never even heard of this "issue".
You are absolutely right that the Declaration of Independence is one of our founding documents. However, it was created under the Continental Congress when the colonies were only loosely associated through the Articles of Confederation.
When the US Constitution was ratified, it superseded the Articles of Confederation, and everything done under the Continental Congress. That does not mean that the Declaration of Independence is any less historically significant, it just means that nothing created under the Continental Congress can be considered legally binding in the newly created United States.
Please read the Statutes at Large of the United States of America, and then you might correct your statements.
Statute #1 is the Declaration of Independence. Statute #2 is the Articles of Confederation. There is no notation that either has been superseded or repealed. In fact, the Articles were incorporated, by reference, into the USCON, via Article 6. And I have yet to find any "constitutional" law that violates Statute #1 (DOI).
Remember, governments are instituted among men to (a) secure rights, and (b) govern those who consent.
If you haven't given consent, all that government can do is help secure your rights to life, liberty and private property.
For those who enjoy a "head smack" consider this:
The president (and state governors) can call out the militia, and order them to fight, and die, if necessary, on command.
The militia is defined as all MALE CITIZENS between 17 and 45.
Declaration of Independence states the governments are created to SECURE rights to life, liberty and private property.
Yet, these same governments categorically deny the militia of their rights to life, liberty and private property.
Hint, hint.
"Citizenship" is voluntary servitude, and a surrender of one's endowment, in exchange for political liberty- the privilege to vote and hold public office.
USCON, Art 1, Section 8
The Congress shall have Power ... To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
USCON, Art. 2, Section 2
The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States;
DUTIES of U.S. citizenship
Title 10 USC Sec. 311. Militia: composition and classes
(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, CITIZENS of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
(b) The classes of the militia are—
(1) the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and
(2) the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
Title 50 USC Sec. 453. Registration (Selective Service)
(a)...it shall be the duty of every male CITIZEN of the United States, and every other male person RESIDING in the United States, who, on the day or days fixed for the first or any subsequent registration, is between the ages of eighteen and twenty-six, to present himself for and submit to registration at such time or times and place or places, and in such manner, as shall be determined by proclamation of the President and by rules and regulations prescribed hereunder. ...
Sovereigns (with domiciles) and subject citizens (with residences) are mutually exclusive. Congress has not infringed upon the sovereignty, freedom, rights nor powers of the sovereign people. But woe to the citizens... especially those "voluntary" socialists.
God Bless the USA!
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