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Old 04-21-2009, 09:10 AM
 
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Women serve an increasingly expanded role in our military and are on the front lines in Iraq. They are brave, smart, strong.. and sexually abused. The percentages are staggering! We cannot turn a blind-eye to what these women (and often teenagers) are facing. How can we better protect them? These could be our daughters....

"Between 2006 and 2008, some 40 women who served in the Iraq War spoke to me of their experiences at war. Twenty-eight of them had been sexually harassed, assaulted or raped while serving.

They were not exceptions. According to several studies of the US military funded by the Department of Veteran Affairs, 30% of military women are raped while serving, 71% are sexually assaulted, and 90% are sexually harassed.

The Department of Defense acknowledges the problem, estimating in its 2009 annual report on sexual assault (issued last month) that some 90% of military sexual assaults are never reported."

BBC NEWS | Americas | Women at war face sexual violence
I'll get flamed for this, but who cares. Women wanted equality, and they rightfully got it through the women's lib movement. Ok, no problem. Women are rightfully allowed to serve in the military. Ok, no problem.

Sexual offenses are in no way, shape, or form acceptable, but since when did it make sense to have 100,000 men and a few women in a confined space together? I don't condone any of the abuse at all, but does it really surprise anyone?

It happens in neighborhoods all across America. Singling out the military is just another liberal wuss-fest.
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Old 04-21-2009, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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I have 2 daughters. You bet I would support their decision to serve.
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Old 04-21-2009, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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You're letting your own self-serving biases about the war in Iraq cloud your judgement of your child's potential willingness to serve his/her country.
That's exactly the point--they aren't serving the country in Iraq. They are serving the clique of gangsters and criminals in Washington, D.C.

(Do you even know what "bias" means?)

If my son or daughter joined the military it would be hard to continue the relationship at all, frankly.

As to the original post, I fail to see how someone would be concerned about their daughter possibly being sexually abused, but not possibly shot in the head, blown to bits, burned alive, etc. Guess it just underlines this society's anti-sexual obsession, but it's nothing I can identify with.
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Old 04-21-2009, 09:15 AM
 
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That's exactly the point--they aren't serving the country in Iraq. They are serving the clique of gangsters and criminals in Washington, D.C.

(Do you even know what "bias" means?)

If my son or daughter joined the military it would be hard to continue the relationship at all, frankly.
Awesome. Just the motherly/fatherly support our kids need. Who needs enemies when you can't even rely on mom or dad to support you in doing something patriotic? You my friend, are a shame to parenting world. Thank God I don't know you. I pray that not many people do. Worthless.
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Old 04-21-2009, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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Awesome. Just the motherly/fatherly support our kids need. Who needs enemies when you can't even rely on mom or dad to support you in doing something patriotic?
I want to raise my kids to be moral, not patriotic. Joining the military is no different than joining the Mafia.
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Old 04-21-2009, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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I worded that poorly.

I would support the willingness to serve and, yes, I would be proud, but it wouldn't stop me from questioning the point of it all.
Don't apologize to these clowns; you were right the first time.
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Old 04-21-2009, 09:23 AM
 
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Don't apologize to these clowns; you were right the first time.
So if you hate this country and our military so much, then why don't you get the Moderator cut: language out? Let me guess, its because you enjoy the freedoms that were brought to you by the military establishment that you hate so much. Amazing.

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Old 04-21-2009, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Don't apologize to these clowns; you were right the first time.
I wouldn't go to the extent you said you would...I'd maintain a relationship.

I support our troops, I do not support the cause.
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Old 04-21-2009, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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So if you hate this country and our military so much, then why don't you get the Moderator cut: language out?
Because I was born here, and that's all the reason I need. If I do leave someday, it will be at my own convenience, not to please a bunch of amoral hillbillies.

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Old 04-21-2009, 09:27 AM
 
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Because I was born here, and that's all the reason I need. If I do leave someday, it will be at my own convenience, not to please a bunch of amoral hillbillies.
Meanwhile I do not agree with you, I respect that you would not want your kids in the military.

If my daughter (If I have a daughter ever)went into the military, I would be sad but accept it.

Dont let people like AeroGuy get to you. He cannot even answer the simpliest of questions.Telling people to get out usually shows their mentality. :-P
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