Who was the best president since John F. Kennedy (enemy, poll, soldier)
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You are going to have to define what you mean by "best" do you mean the best, politically? The one that did the "best" for our country economically? The "best" leader?
Personally, as far as being the "best" person. The person who cared the most for the population, and wanted what was "best" for them, (not talking economics, definitely not talking foreign policy) is Jimmy Carter. As far as just being a PERSON, he was certainly the BEST in my opinion.
Now all that other stuff, I can only say. Anybody except GWB. LOL And despite the fact that every Republican who answered this poll chose Ronald Reagan, (who is the "republican God of State"), I have no idea what he did that was so terrific. I wish someone would clue me in on it.
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Now all that other stuff, I can only say. Anybody except GWB. LOL And despite the fact that every Republican who answered this poll chose Ronald Reagan, (who is the "republican God of State"), I have no idea what he did that was so terrific. I wish someone would clue me in on it.
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You'll soon hear he toppled both the Berlin Wall and the Soviet Union almost single-handedly. As I've said, an Oscar caliber performance, actually making people believe the role he played was real.
Some of y'all are still sipping that kool-aid I see.
Unca Ronnie raised taxes multiple times (four times just between 1982-84 with gas and payroll tax hikes - which by the way, no one in his administration was allowed to talk about, heh), unemployment soared (highest since the 1940s), and he ran up a MASSIVE deficit with his military spending, which was out of control. He also cut medicaid for lower income people.
Ya'll need to stop trying to canonize this guy by trying to put forth a fake version of what really went on during his tenure. I wonder how many people who idolize this guy were even old enough to grasp politics then. That photo op "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" was just that - a photo op, and he did it well, obviously, because some people think he just about single-handedly defeated the Sovets. What happened to the Soviet Bloc was inevitable, and it wouldn't have mattered if Mickey Mouse was president. The upheaval in Soviet Russia had begun years earlier, and it was internal, Ronnie wasn't a magician waving a wand around, casting spells to get the Soviets to fall apart. Their system was simply unsustainable.
The Soviets mainly defeated themselves by overextending themselves, and my Euro friend laugh and are actually a bit insulted when they hear the suggestion that Reagan ended the Cold War.
Y'all wanna pick the guy who changed your party to a party that didn't follow traditional conservative values like smaller government and lower taxes, go ahead.
The legacy of Reagan is the two Bushes, who were just as reckless, and anything but traditional conservatives.
Yes, Reagan dared to challenge the mighty militaries of Grenada and Nicaragua (and had to funnel missiles to those evil Iranians to get even this far). The Russians chose to establish order (of a rather ruthless sort) in Afghanistan.
If the Iranians truly wished to do us harm, they'd arm the Taliban with the same man-portable anti-tank and anti-air missiles provided to Hezbollah and our position in Afghanistan would quickly grow to resemble the Russian's predicament.
We are still dealing with fallout from the Cold War twenty years later. In my opinion (there being no other I could hold) we are awfully smug in our insistence we "won" the cold war. Twenty years historically is a blink of an eye. America will not disintegrate like Rome or even the former U.S.S.R., but our future can still be similar to Britain or Spain, where we are divested of our overseas empire and influence. Only those historians decades from now will be able to see if, in our "winning" the cold war, we also inflicted fatal wounds on ourself.
Yes, Reagan dared to challenge the mighty militaries of Grenada and Nicaragua (and had to funnel missiles to those evil Iranians to get even this far). The Russians chose to establish order (of a rather ruthless sort) in Afghanistan.
If the Iranians truly wished to do us harm, they'd arm the Taliban with the same man-portable anti-tank and anti-air missiles provided to Hezbollah and our position in Afghanistan would quickly grow to resemble the Russian's predicament.
We are still dealing with fallout from the Cold War twenty years later. In my opinion (there being no other I could hold) we are awfully smug in our insistence we "won" the cold war. Twenty years historically is a blink of an eye. America will not disintegrate like Rome or even the former U.S.S.R., but our future can still be similar to Britain or Spain, where we are divested of our overseas empire and influence. Only those historians decades from now will be able to see if, in our "winning" the cold war, we also inflicted fatal wounds on ourself.
Agreed.
I suppose we shouldn't be surprised that many of them are still holding on to the Cold War so tightly as proof that Reaganesque conservatism is the Holy Grail of conservatism, because some of them are still stuck in a WWII mindset, for cripe's sake. What I mean by that is they see our position as somehow above the rest of the world, and since we helped save the world, we now have some sort of infinite immunity to criticism (and certain laws). "smug" is the perfect term, thank you.
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Who was the best president since John F. Kennedy
