Obama's America (Afghanistan, solutions, how much, insurance)

[burdell]

Originally Posted by kevcrawford

We just want people to step out of the partisan realm, remove the name Obama from their heads for just a second and look at the policies being put in place.

Lots of bad things are coming down the pike, but the halo that's been put around his head is blinding too many people.

OK, we're looking at the policies being put in place. I'll listen, as much as I don't like rewarding some of the scoundrels who've caused many of our problems I can also see some merit to the arguments that letting some banks/cor[porations totally fail would have worse consequences.

WHAT's a better plan and WHY?

And please note: Running scared screaming SOCIALISM! while offering no viable alternative is really not a plan.

[AeroGuyDC]

Originally Posted by burdell

And just HOW have they been determined to be Islamofascists with no trial, no charges, and in many cases no evidence? You've still made no valid point.



A 'being', I said NOTHING of the kind! A fertilized egg IS NOT a child! You can believe whatever you like, just don't attempt forcing NON-FACT-BASED beliefs on others.

Trust me, nothing that you've said surprises me. You're towing the liberal "I can do anything I want because the law dictates my moral compass" line. It's shameful. You sit here and defend men who were fighting against us and everything America stands for, and then turn around and refute that a child created by a man and a woman is non-existent because of a construed biological technicality, and thus justifying you're right to terminate that child.

I'll say it again. When a terrorist has more rights than an unborn child, liberals have crept to the lowest of lows.

I personally could care less whether you're religious or not. I believe in the sanctity of life, and really could give a damn whether an Islamofacist gets a trial in court. He chose his life, he gets to pay the consequences. The unborn child doesn't get that chance, and you liberals support that.

I stand by my argument.

[kevcrawford]

Originally Posted by burdell

A fertilized egg IS NOT a child! You can believe whatever you like, just don't attempt forcing NON-FACT-BASED beliefs on others.

A human being goes through many stages of life. Like it or not, an embryo IS a child. It's the very first stage of a child. It's not another type of creature that suddenly becomes human. It IS alive. A newborn doesn't look like an old man just like an embryo doesn't look like a newborn. We grow and change throughout our lives.

Life happens when an egg is fertilized. That's the way life is started. Just because it doesn't LOOK like a baby to you, doesn't mean that it isn't one.

We can argue the abortion issue all day, but an embryo IS a living, human being at its earliest stages. An embryo will always grow until it resembles a human. It is a human at the earliest stages.

Abortion has been so politicized that people take sides based on politics. But you cannot deny that an embryo IS a HUMAN BEING. It may look different, but that's the way God (or nature if you don't believe in God) intended. Regardless of your beliefs, all humans looked like an embryo at one point. They grew and changed, just like a baby grows and changes, just like a teenager grows and changes, etc, etc, etc...

[uggabugga]

Originally Posted by Captain Worley

Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right,
Here I am, stuck in the middle with poo.

lol!
now i'm gonna have that dang song stuck in my head all day.

[kevcrawford]

Originally Posted by burdell

OK, we're looking at the policies being put in place. I'll listen, as much as I don't like rewarding some of the scoundrels who've caused many of our problems I can also see some merit to the arguments that letting some banks/cor[porations totally fail would have worse consequences.

WHAT's a better plan and WHY?

And please note: Running scared screaming SOCIALISM! while offering no viable alternative is really not a plan.

Getting the government to stop throwing money around. The government was created to GOVERN and PROTECT. Not to achieve things.

This country was founded by people that worked and created their own wealth. They were responsible for feeding their families and providing for themselves. They were responsible for taking responsibility for themselves and not depending on anyone.

This has been going on for years and years and years, but the government is trying to do anything and everything. It's like Apple Computers trying to branch into making toasters, and opening veterinary hospitals, and making tires, and space exploration, etc. You cannot do all that and do it well. The government has become a jack of all trades, but an ace of none.

People are too dependent on the government. They need to GOVERN and PROTECT. We have the right to life, liberty and PURSUIT of happiness. We're not guaranteed happiness. But they can't prevent us from achieving it if we want it.

The American people should be left to their own devices to create their own wealth and provide for their families. It worked before. It'll work again.

[LexusNexus]

Terrorists confound us.
Leaders LIE to trick ineffective use of combat forces and firepower.
"Shock and Awe" didn't work. Fools.
WMDs not found. Liars.
9/11 mastermind still at large, probably tanning in the Bahamas.
Millions of innocent killed, wounded, crippled. For who? For what?
Trillion dollars spent on wrong war: Cancer still lives.
We are the swaggering pirates attacking sovereign nations unprovoked.
Capitalists go unregulated and reward incompetence.
Canada is ignored.
Prez falls off bike and has a few scrapes. The entire free world was hoping for worse.
Street gang violence out of control in every city and town.
America ineffective at the Mexico's border.
Mexico ignored.
Cuba ignored.
The prez believes "dreams take wing."
The stupidity of the prez is the biggest WMD.
Detriot sells inferior gas guzzlers and this is ignored.
An Astronomist tells the prez what decisions to make.
Underestimated Islam so bleeding to death.
Blind support for Israel's continued intrusion on Arab land.
World tours are to avoid domestic obligations.
Amongst nations, we are obvious buffoons.
Go it alone yields no good results or insights into others.
Replace qualified American workers with H-1B visa immigrants.
Pompous men can tell women what to do with their bodies.
Fight Islamic ideology with guns to the tune of a trillion dollars and LOSE.
Ignore health care.
Ignore infrastructure.
Ignore technological research.
Ignore biomedical research.
Ignore scientific research period.
No solution to crime period.
No clue on how to prevent housing crisis.
No clue on how to prevent mortgage crisis.
Promote predatory lending in an unregulated market.
No plan to avoid economic free fall.
Illegal immigration efforts completely ineffective.
Outsourcing out of control while ineffective executives line their pockets.
Qualified American workers tossed aside for cheap labor.
Recession inevitable.
Depression after that.
Racism ignored.
Build up other nations while American cities crumble. "Spread Democracy."
China, India prosper because of our capitalism while we flounder, go figure.
No effective, innovative education reform.
No new taxes but everything else costs more.
Gas prices at all-time highs.
Shoes get thrown at Prez at foreign functions because he's so pathetic.
The only thing spreading was Cheney's XXXL pants. Prosperity wasn't.
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and how can we live this one down, uttered by the conservative village idiot: "rarely is the question asked, is our children learning?"

[burdell]

Originally Posted by AeroGuyDC

Trust me, nothing that you've said surprises me. You're towing the liberal "I can do anything I want because the law dictates my moral compass" line. It's shameful. You sit here and defend men who were fighting against us and everything America stands for, and then turn around and refute that a child created by a man and a woman is non-existent because of a construed biological technicality, and thus justifying you're right to terminate that child.

I'll say it again. When a terrorist has more rights than an unborn child, liberals have crept to the lowest of lows.

I personally could care less whether you're religious or not. I believe in the sanctity of life, and really could give a damn whether an Islamofacist gets a trial in court. He chose his life, he gets to pay the consequences. The unborn child doesn't get that chance, and you liberals support that.

I stand by my argument.

Your argument is little more than self-righteous "I'm right, the world is wrong" with little/no facts to support it.

And you have YET to explain just HOW it's determined someone is an Islamofascist without evidence, charges, trial? Or do you propose passing judgement based on eeny, meeny, miney, mo? Your so called moral compass obviously has no relationship with traditional US values and justice.

[burdell]

Originally Posted by kevcrawford

A human being goes through many stages of life. Like it or not, an embryo IS a child. It's the very first stage of a child. It's not another type of creature that suddenly becomes human. It IS alive. A newborn doesn't look like an old man just like an embryo doesn't look like a newborn. We grow and change throughout our lives.

IMO a human-being has a heartbeat and brain wave function. Does a fertilized egg?

[kevcrawford]

The heart starts beating at a few weeks. I believe the brain wave function does too, but I'm not 100% sure on that.

An embryo will NOT be anything else though. That's how humans begin. Why is it only considered alive when we can recognize it? That's nature's design.

[AeroGuyDC]

Originally Posted by burdell

Your argument is little more than self-righteous "I'm right, the world is wrong" with little/no facts to support it.

And you have YET to explain just HOW it's determined someone is an Islamofascist without evidence, charges, trial? Or do you propose passing judgement based on eeny, meeny, miney, mo? Your so called moral compass obviously has no relationship with traditional US values and justice.

Burdell, I have avoided bringing this into the conversation, but you force me to. Two tours in Iraq and one to Afghanistan. Trust me, I don't need to explain what an Islamofacist is. I've seen it with my own two eyes the type of justice they deserve. Cowardly liberals will never understand that.

Now run along and join Cindy Sheehan. She needs some company these days I hear.