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04-06-2007, 11:35 AM
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Yes, Yap but can't you see the point that he is in this country illegally in the 1st place. He has no respect for the laws of this country. . of course he is not going to uphold the driving laws. . .
I see no corelation between a black man robbing a store being a black issue. Black, white or pink. . . I don't care if the illegal alien is from Norway or Mexico it is NOT a racial issue but an illegal issue. .
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04-06-2007, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by spunky1
Yes, Yap but can't you see the point that he is in this country illegally in the 1st place. He has no respect for the laws of this country. . of course he is not going to uphold the driving laws. . .
I see no corelation between a black man robbing a store being a black issue. Black, white or pink. . . I don't care if the illegal alien is from Norway or Mexico it is NOT a racial issue but an illegal issue. .
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Yeah, but that's an irrelevant point.
A crime is a crime is a crime.
That's like saying that because he was a citizen, and not an illegal immigrant, he was brazen enough to get behind the wheel drunk in the first place.
Can we say that about the hundreds of other DWI fatalities in that state?
Of course not. Both arguments are ridiculous.
~T
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04-06-2007, 12:43 PM
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Rosie is one of the biggest nut cases in this country today and ABC should have never hired her....and it wont be long before she is gone.....
And the only thing that brought down the twin towers were the two planes that hit them and nothing else other than the way they were designed. And Rosie for your information fire does not have to melt steel, it just has to weaken it ......
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04-06-2007, 02:30 PM
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Remember when we used to idolize people who ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISHED THINGS? When did we all of a sudden start following the lady at the drive-thru (Rosie), and the disgruntled cab driver(Bill)?
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Yes, it is a sad commentary. Something is wrong in America.
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04-09-2007, 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by texanborn
Rosie is one of the biggest nut cases in this country today and ABC should have never hired her....and it wont be long before she is gone.....
And the only thing that brought down the twin towers were the two planes that hit them and nothing else other than the way they were designed. And Rosie for your information fire does not have to melt steel, it just has to weaken it ......
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(when I use the word 'you' below, I'm not referring to texanborn, but applying it generally)
Strange that the weakening of the steel was identical in two buildings of 110 stories when both fires occurred at different locations. Odd that a person is a nut job when they ask questions about what they instinctively feel doesn't jive with reality or with what they can perceive with their own senses.
Does everyone know that the WTC towers were looked upon by realtors as bad investments because the cost to put up scaffolding to remove the asbestos in the buildings would have exceeded $1 billion, more than the cost of the buildings themselves? Knowing this then, it becomes suspicious that the new landlord Larry Silverstein took out huge insurance policies on the two buildings that covered terrorist acts. Really now, what would those premiums have been like since the buildings had already experienced a 'terrorist' event?! What insurance company allowed that kind of policy? You know, lots of business owners burn their own buildings down to collect the insurance money.
I'm very surprised that asking questions about WTC7's collapse is regarded as nuts or, worse, reason for execution. The BBC video that surfaced wherein the reporter said WTC7 had collapsed while the actual building stood behind her is telling, don't you think? She said WTC7 had fallen some 23 minutes before it actually did. She must either be psychic or a terrorist?!
If the terrorists really wanted to kill alot of people, they wouldn't have flown planes into the buildings. Their eventual collapse was never to be expected; it was unprecedented. On the other hand, flying planes into 2 world famous towers is just good TV, something to get everyone's attention, to announce "Hey, Look! Terrorists!!" I think it was a successful diversion, one that resulted in the quick passage of fascist legislation like the Patriot Act and the eventual dismantling of the Constitution. Boy, we can't ask questions when it's so obvious it was terrorists. We must be nuts if we do that!
I know it's easy to claim the official story is the only rational way to go on the events of 9/11. It's also easy to not ask questions and let other people dictate what reality is to you. I knew on that actual day that something was amiss. It wasn't Bush. It wasn't Clinton. Both are opposite sides of the same coin. Both are pawns placed into power by far more powerful individuals. It is America's complete disbelief that evil could be so vast and all-encompassing that allows that evil to persist and even thrive. Denying its existence doesn't make it go away.
Asking questions is always the best course of action and I applaud Rosie for doing so. Until one of you has all the answers, it is unfair to attack her. I don't have the answers, just suspicions. Enough suspicions to think that asking these hard-to-face questions is of dire importance to our country.
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04-09-2007, 05:58 AM
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I used to turn away from Rosie O' Donell because I thought she was always up in people's faces about a certain issue a lot of Americans dont agree with. Now the systematic attacks on herself, Sheen, Cuban, and the Dixie Chicks, look like they're being politically driven by some ruthless undercurrent.
On the flipside I used to watch Bill O'Reilly because my dad was a Republican. He always had the news on. Now that im a little older I tune into to O'Reilly sometimes. Not without feeling bitter towards him though. I think he's a puppet now. As well as other media players who have been in on the character assualts since Bush has been in office.
I never had any allegiance to dem, inde or pub. So it doesnt matter to me either way. I dont see things in labels. My view is that alot of people have exposed themselves overlaying their cards in the assault of character on these people since Bush took office. I think they're puppets. Either unknowingly, or knowingly.
Wether Rosie is right or not doesnt matter to me. She really has no means of obtaining any information that could help her stance than any other person has available to them. She's not afraid to speculate or go out on a limb so she has courage and conviction.
Wether I agree or not, I will listen when someone has something to say and wants to be heard. I wouldnt know if I agree or not if I never listened to them. I was already looking into the things Rosie was saying before the media started chumming the waters.
And quite frankly I hope more Americans start taking notice of conspiracy inside the government and military. Many people have came forth and put their lives on the line for what they want American people to know. They do that for all of us. Pay attention and stop bumbling around in the pigpen.
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04-09-2007, 08:36 AM
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Never lose your sense of wonder..........or wander
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Asking questions is always the best course of action and I applaud Rosie for doing so. Until one of you has all the answers, it is unfair to attack her. I don't have the answers, just suspicions. Enough suspicions to think that asking these hard-to-face questions is of dire importance to our country.
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She doesn't just ask questions, she makes statements as fact when they are anything but. She made the statement that 9/11 was the first time in history that fire had ever melted steel, I guess it had always been made by mystical incantation in the past. She also conveniently overlooked the fact that steel weakens considerably at elevated temperatures.
She uses her position to spread her own delusions and misconceptions, why applaud her for that?
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04-09-2007, 08:46 AM
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Delicate Flower
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Originally Posted by burdell
She doesn't just ask questions, she makes statements as fact when they are anything but. She made the statement that 9/11 was the first time in history that fire had ever melted steel, I guess it had always been made by mystical incantation in the past. She also conveniently overlooked the fact that steel weakens considerably at elevated temperatures.
She uses her position to spread her own delusions and misconceptions, why applaud her for that?
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Exactly. She does make statements as fact that are so off the wall that only the very unsophisticated would believe them. But her audience on "The View" pretty much has bought her hook line and sinker. That is why she is so scarey.
She also has a personal dislike for Bush because of his stance on gay marriage and she has let this cloud her judgement considerably.
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04-09-2007, 09:10 AM
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Exactly. She does make statements as fact that are so off the wall that only the very unsophisticated would believe them. But her audience on "The View" pretty much has bought her hook line and sinker. That is why she is so scarey.
She also has a personal dislike for Bush because of his stance on gay marriage and she has let this cloud her judgement considerably.
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lol, I'll give Rosie SOME credit. Her opinions on Bush aren't based on Gay marriage. I'm sure she'd think he was just as big an idiot either way, lol.
...and thanks for the pic, Spunky
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04-09-2007, 09:33 AM
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Never lose your sense of wonder..........or wander
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Originally Posted by spunky1
Exactly. She does make statements as fact that are so off the wall that only the very unsophisticated would believe them. But her audience on "The View" pretty much has bought her hook line and sinker. That is why she is so scarey.
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I just wish more people would learn the difference between fact and opinion, it's a HUGE difference, on both sides of the aisle
The really scary thing is how willing people are to accept so many things no-questions asked.
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