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06-20-2009, 12:47 AM
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There are plenty of nonviolent pit bulls.
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06-20-2009, 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Greatday
Perhaps YOU have never "met" an aggressive Pit Bull but, there is certainly sufficient evidence that Pit Bulls are involved in far more "aggressive" style attacks on humans (including the killing of some) than other breeds.
The aggressive nature of this Breed (and several others) extends to the fact of a number of Insurance carriers will not write homeowners / renters insurance if a Pit (or a couple of other breeds) is going to occupy the dwelling.
So again - although you have not encountered a problem with a Pit Bull, enough other people have to the point where the breed is being excluded from being able to live in certain areas etc.
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Nonsense. Read the thread it has been shown that the majority of the attacks blamed on pitbulls were infact attacks by another breed or a mix of other breeds.
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06-20-2009, 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Greatday
Perhaps YOU have never "met" an aggressive Pit Bull but, there is certainly sufficient evidence that Pit Bulls are involved in far more "aggressive" style attacks on humans (including the killing of some) than other breeds.
The aggressive nature of this Breed (and several others) extends to the fact of a number of Insurance carriers will not write homeowners / renters insurance if a Pit (or a couple of other breeds) is going to occupy the dwelling.
So again - although you have not encountered a problem with a Pit Bull, enough other people have to the point where the breed is being excluded from being able to live in certain areas etc.
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Pitbulls are no different to any other breed. Pitbulls are only as dangerous as their owner just the same as a gun is as dangerous as its owner. More peope are victims of guns than pitbulls. Are you therefore saying that guns have a "aggressive nature".
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06-20-2009, 07:17 AM
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The only thing lucky about it is that the neighbor's dog was ALSO well-socialized. I KNOW mine is.
As I said already I never leave her outside alone - and would never leave ANY dog outside alone.
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In the city I live in I would have been permitted to shoot you dog under those circumstances and I would have.
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06-20-2009, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Tambintime
Pitbulls are no different to any other breed. Pitbulls are only as dangerous as their owner just the same as a gun is as dangerous as its owner. More peope are victims of guns than pitbulls. Are you therefore saying that guns have a "aggressive nature".
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a gun can't make a descision on its own first of all. totally irrelevant
and yes pitbulls are different then other breeds. they are friggin muscles!!! thats the danger here. they don't attack more, but kill more and do more damage, thats the danger.
now imagine a large segment had pet lions, and they attacked no more then any other breed. but when they did, well you know what happens.. of course people would want to ban them!!!
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06-20-2009, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by lamexican
Nonsense. Read the thread it has been shown that the majority of the attacks blamed on pitbulls were infact attacks by another breed or a mix of other breeds.
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The FACT remains, PitBulls, right or wrong, get the blame. AND, another FACT is, my comment about insurance carriers denying coverage. AND, another FACT is, housing providers (such as apartment complexes), will often not allow a Pit Bull (and several other breeds) to reside in the community.
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06-20-2009, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by leangk
a gun can't make a descision on its own first of all. totally irrelevant
and yes pitbulls are different then other breeds. they are friggin muscles!!! thats the danger here. they don't attack more, but kill more and do more damage, thats the danger.
now imagine a large segment had pet lions, and they attacked no more then any other breed. but when they did, well you know what happens.. of course people would want to ban them!!!
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Pittbulls are trained by their owners to be aggresive. The owner of a dangerous DOG regardless of it's breed is NO different to the owner of a gun who decides his gun is there to be used as a ferocious weapon in the same way that owners train their pittbulls to be ferocious dogs. Pitballs are NO different to ANY other breed of dog except in the minds of the moronic people who train them to fight or attack.
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06-20-2009, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by geeoro
Pittbulls are trained by their owners to be aggresive. The owner of a dangerous DOG regardless of it's breed is NO different to the owner of a gun who decides his gun is there to be used as a ferocious weapon in the same way that owners train their pittbulls to be ferocious dogs. Pitballs are NO different to ANY other breed of dog except in the minds of the moronic people who train them to fight or attack.
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YET AGAIN you skip over the main point. does it take 8 bullets to take down a golden retriever??? no!!!
end of story. These animals, aggressive or not, once they become violent for any reason (unprovoked, bothered ect) they will destroy whatever they want. not irrationally attack, but destroy anything because they are that powerful.
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06-20-2009, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by leangk
YET AGAIN you skip over the main point. does it take 8 bullets to take down a golden retriever??? no!!!
end of story. These animals, aggressive or not, once they become violent for any reason (unprovoked, bothered ect) they will destroy whatever they want. not irrationally attack, but destroy anything because they are that powerful.
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It can take 8 bullets to take down a German Shepherd or a Boxer or any muscular hunting dog...so what? You saying that because a dog is stronger than some other dogs it is therefore dangerous????????? That would be a silly logic, don't you think?
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06-20-2009, 10:10 AM
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its not really silly.. saying " because a dog is stronger than some other dogs it is therefore dangerous???"
is a lion not more dangerous than a dog, its stronger. a shark then a fish. if something can do potentially more damage then yes it is potentially more dangerous. thats not silly logic.. thats a fact
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