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Old 04-26-2009, 05:28 PM
 
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Originally Posted by camping! View Post
It may make you feel 'good' and no doubt 'morally superior' to paint me as a racist. Whatever. My stance would be the same if this were the avian flu from China. In fact, I know someone who was stuck in China for over a month due to the outbreak. I don't recall any great debate about quarantining and stopping flights from China.
I wonder why that is?
Exactly. Excellent post camping

 
Old 04-26-2009, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Brusssels
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Oops! Just hope he didn't send that secession message via FEDEX!
 
Old 04-26-2009, 05:35 PM
 
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A common thread here are legal citizens returning home after a visit to Mexico and bringing this with them. This is happening all over the world now..not illegals entering other countries but the country's citizens returning home with this virus.
That's fine. Quarantine returning US citizens and legal residents for 7-10 days. No one else get in- no visitors, no illegal aliens.
 
Old 04-26-2009, 05:38 PM
 
Location: where my heart is
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I had salomnella poisoning last year. Can swine flu be worse than that?
 
Old 04-26-2009, 05:39 PM
 
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And originated in Mexico by an American Company no less..the gall !!! They have a huge CAFO swine breeding farm down there..bigger there than all the US swine farms put together..over 60% of the village near that farm caught a "virus".
(SmithField farms)
The website you linked to that broke this 'story', Grist, does not seem to be held in particularly high esteem by people I consider to be knowledgeable about infectious diseases. Add it up any way you like.

The virus originated in Mexico. I am sorry, but no matter how hard you try you are not going to be able to blame this on the US.
 
Old 04-26-2009, 05:39 PM
 
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Apparently, those infected in the US visited Mexico and got the flu. This means that the pathetic attempt of blaming inmmigrants for spreading the disease around the US has failed.
And therefore, prudent precautions should fail also?
 
Old 04-26-2009, 05:40 PM
 
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I had salomnella poisoning last year. Can swine flu be worse than that?
If you are in Mexico and end up dead, then I would have to say yes.
 
Old 04-26-2009, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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As far as I know, this is a respiratory flu, not an intestinal flu. I haven't heard any reports of it spreading from eating food, it is spread person-to-person. The infected are people who travelled to Mexico. And, potentially, anyone the infected people have contact with after returning to the US.
It is a respiratory flu. There is really no such thing as GI flu, though some people get GI symptoms from the influenza. I really don't know how that term "stomach flu" came into vogue, but I spend a lot of time correcting that misconception in my work.

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Originally Posted by camping! View Post
It may make you feel 'good' and no doubt 'morally superior' to paint me as a racist. Whatever. My stance would be the same if this were the avian flu from China. In fact, I know someone who was stuck in China for over a month due to the outbreak. I don't recall any great debate about quarantining and stopping flights from China.
I wonder why that is?
I was not trying to "paint you as a racist". I was just saying, it's not just the illegal immigrants who are bringing this stuff back to the US. In fact, it seems to be US citizens who are bringing it back! As I said yesterday, it's a bit ridiculous to say "all illegal immigration needs to stop". It's illegal! It shouldn't be happening in the first place.

I read an article today where a doctor (not some random poster on CD, mind you) said that quarantines and the like are just political, as the virus is in this country. If I have time, I'll look for it, but I've read so much about this today, I don't know if I"ll be able to find it. I already discussed the futility of taking temperatures. A person is contagious 1-2 days before they are sick.
 
Old 04-26-2009, 05:46 PM
 
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And therefore, prudent precautions will fail also.
Define 'fail'. Prudent precautions should at least delay the onset. Simply buying time will give a country a chance to be better prepared when the pandemic does strike. Also, if large areas are not hit all at once, the healthcare system will be better able to cope. For example, if 200 patients show up in 24 hours needing ICU beds, I feel safe saying most places would be hard pressed to deal with that. If we can spread those 200 patients out over 2 weeks, the situation would be more manageable.
 
Old 04-26-2009, 05:49 PM
 
Location: A little suburb of Houston
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They just closed dowm the whole school district in Cibolo (near San Antonio) as many more folks are showing symptoms. Classes Canceled At SCUCISD This Week Due To Swine Flu - Health News Story - KSAT San Antonio (http://www.ksat.com/health/19295627/detail.html#- - broken link)
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