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Old 09-29-2009, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Abortion is the choice of the woman. It is her body and nobody elses. If a person does not have control of their own body, who does? Who owns the woman? Her husband, her lover, her baby, her slaver?

She owns her body. If she does not want to be pregnant for what ever reason she has the right to decide to have an abortion. This is a basic human right.

 
Old 09-29-2009, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Abortion is the choice of the woman. It is her body and nobody elses. If a person does not have control of their own body, who does? Who owns the woman? Her husband, her lover, her baby, her slaver?

She owns her body. If she does not want to be pregnant for what ever reason she has the right to decide to have an abortion. This is a basic human right.
The basic human right is life. The unborn has that right.
 
Old 09-29-2009, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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teens in foster care end up there for various reasons. However if their parents gave them fro adoption as infants they would have been adopted
There are people who leave the state's care at 18, never having had a family to call their own since birth. Not adopted. People would rather adopt a Mexican or Colombian or Korean baby.
 
Old 09-29-2009, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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There are people who leave the state's care at 18, never having had a family to call their own since birth. Not adopted. People would rather adopt a Mexican or Colombian or Korean baby.
Almost 100% of infants put up for adoption are adopted. Nine years olds and up put in foster care at times will never be adopted because people want infants. Foreign adoptions cane be used for many who do not qualify for any other adoption
 
Old 09-29-2009, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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I have personally been in exactly this type of position.

My pregnant wife was in a coma - and I had to make a decision: Abort the child and save my wife. Or, keep my wife on life supports to allow for more time for the child and lose my wife.

My wife and I had actually had a conversation about "what if" - this type of thing - what if it came up.

And based in part on that conversation, I lost my wife - but have a healthy son.
I'm sorry that you had that decision to make and good for you for stepping up to raise your child, but that was a case of your wife making a choice before she was put in that position. That's the key here - that was her choice. She had a choice between a or b and she chose b. This does not mean that other women should have their choices taken away from them if they choose not to have a child.
 
Old 09-29-2009, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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Seems to me the most degrading thing a woman could do is sit in stir ups and listen to her unborn brain being sucked out or killed with saline. I do not see anything more degrading to a woman than that.
why can not a responsible father have a say so if his unborn is to live or die?
Maybe the father also does not want the pregnancy to continue?

If you don't see anything more degrading to a woman than that, then you need to get out more.
 
Old 09-29-2009, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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I'm sorry that you had that decision to make and good for you for stepping up to raise your child, but that was a case of your wife making a choice before she was put in that position. That's the key here - that was her choice. She had a choice between a or b and she chose b. This does not mean that other women should have their choices taken away from them if they choose not to have a child.
Let me correct one thing: She did NOT make the choice. It was me who made the choice. We had a discussion about the type of issue but, she did not ever say - "do this" or "do that". The decision - the "choice" was totally in my hands.

And for a little perspective: We had a 4 year old who was at home. We had a 2 year old who was in the car (this was before car seats and seat belts) with his mom driving who was killed instantly when the drunk driver hit our car on the drivers side (doing I was told over 50 MPH) and my wife was left in the coma.

I ended up being a single dad, with a new born and a 4 year old - and a widower.
 
Old 09-29-2009, 02:55 PM
 
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I'm sorry that you had that decision to make and good for you for stepping up to raise your child, but that was a case of your wife making a choice before she was put in that position. That's the key here - that was her choice. She had a choice between a or b and she chose b. This does not mean that other women should have their choices taken away from them if they choose not to have a child.


Exactly.

I feel that the woman has the right to life before the fetus does. Unless the man and woman decide otherwise, the doctor should always try saving the woman first.
 
Old 09-29-2009, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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I feel that the woman has the right to life before the fetus does. Unless the man and woman decide otherwise, the doctor should always try saving the woman first.
It is not the Doctors decision to make.
 
Old 09-29-2009, 03:01 PM
 
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It is not the Doctors decision to make.
If there is no one else around to instruct the doctor, then yes. He should save the women first.

Unless he/she knows what is wanted in the given situation, save the woman first.
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