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Again, after 7 years in jail without trial the Government under Bush admitted they were NOT enemy combatants.
I don't know how to make it more clear than that.
Simply put, those are the only "facts" that you know. The next time you want to come at me with "ignorance" at least be prepared to back it up. You know nothing about this, and it shows.
If this is true, we all have reason to worry. One thing is to catch a terrorist (or terrorists, as in this case), deem them to be no threat, and then re-release them in their native countries. It simply is not acceptable that anyone caught on any battlefield anywhere (East Turkestan Islamic Movement captured at an al-Queda training camp in Pakistan) be released within the confines of the United States. Period. This is nauseating. It will greatly disappoint me if any liberal or conservative anywhere can defend this action, if true.
What is really nausating is treating as terrorists people who are fighting for their right to live as free men in a land under Chinas jackboot. America should not be doing Beijing's dirty work. China views what is happening in places like its region in Central Asia, Tibet and Taiwan as treason and punishes it as it sees fit. China has been supressing Islam ever since the formation of the Peoples Republic. The fact these people have to turn to Al Queda for help in fighting China kind of belies our claim to be a defender of liberty and freedom. At least Obama has the decency to not send them back to China where if they are lucky only a Peoples Liberation Army firing squad awaits.
What is really nausating is treating as terrorists people who are fighting for their right to live as free men in a land under Chinas jackboot. America should not be doing Beijing's dirty work. China views what is happening in places like its region in Central Asia, Tibet and Taiwan as treason and punishes it as it sees fit. China has been supressing Islam ever since the formation of the Peoples Republic. The fact these people have to turn to Al Queda for help in fighting China kind of belies our claim to be a defender of liberty and freedom. At least Obama has the decency to not send them back to China where if they are lucky only a Peoples Liberation Army firing squad awaits.
Those are exactly the facts that i've been waiting to hear. Thank you. However, one would have to wonder if the indoctrination that is taught within Al-Qaeda training camps is compartmentalized into anti-China and anti-US training. The rational side of me says no way, they just hate us all. In light of the Global War On Terror, I don't find it particularly smart to align with Al-Qaeda for training if the purpose is not ill intention against the United States. Why train in a camp that you KNOW the US will find and destroy? I'm still a little skeptical, but I could be wrong.
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The year is 1996, it is spring in the Sitara market bazaar of Peshawar, Pakistan, while passing through the many Afghani stalls offering black market satellite dishes and computers mixed with gore-tex boots, Oakley sunglasses, and night vision mounts for an automatic weapon priced at $300 American dollars stored under counters out of sight and sometimes in plain view, was a tiny storefront.
A small shop with dirty windows which made the entrance sign, which read the Afghani Information Center, difficult to read; was busy printing pamphlets and political tracts in Urdu. The back of the store had a desk covered with publications, behind which sat a small, middle aged man, a Palestinian who held a doctorate in law from Cairo university and his name was Abdullah Azzam.
What many anti communist supporters of this store known as the Mujahidin Service bureau, didn't know was how this man would become one of the leading advocates of jihad. Sheik Abdullah as he was to become known was the official voice of the anti-communist Afghan regime known as the Mujahidin. The sheik who would later move on to become the creator of the Muslim International had assigned himself the daunting task of trying to get the outside world to pay attention to the struggle to free Afghanistan, and to record as the tallyman, the names of all the men who would come to Peshawar and serve in the great jihad.
One man a mujahid who didn't look afghan, with his thin angular face, notably skinny physique, and calm manner would offer to help Abdullah with the jihad. He chose along with thousands of others, to visit this dilapidated storefront. Abdullah would offer this man like all the others, a bed in the rooming house he owned next door known to the locals as the centre, or as it was pronounced in Arabic, Al-Qaida. The sheik would offer with conviction his pronouncement "We the mujahidin will defeat the Soviet communists and their Afghan communist dogs. Allah be praised! When we have finished with the Soviet imperialists, I will urge our fellow mujahidin to drive the American imperialists from Arabia and liberate Palestine!
It was early in March, and the snows of the Khyber pass were starting to melt. The serious young man listened to Abdullah and vowed to follow the early Islamic ideal of virtuousness and asceticism. He would subsist on beans and bread, and sleep on the ground, and devote his time to strictly follow the principles of Islam. The young man whose name would become synonymous with terrorism, was Osama Bin Laden.
This is from my opening at a libertarian think tank seminar in which I explored the roots of the Mujahedin and its effects on the future of libertarianism in the middle east. Thought it might give some perspective of what the Uigher freedom fighters would have observed during their time training at Al-Qaida.
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However, one would have to wonder if the indoctrination that is taught within Al-Qaeda training camps is compartmentalized into anti-China and anti-US training. The rational side of me says no way, they just hate us all. In light of the Global War On Terror, I don't find it particularly smart to align with Al-Qaeda for training if the purpose is not ill intention against the United States. Why train in a camp that you KNOW the US will find and destroy? I'm still a little skeptical, but I could be wrong.
