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05-04-2009, 01:28 PM
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Conservatives are people too. No, really they are!
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Originally Posted by roxxy38
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Your quoted site is biased, to say the least. In discussing policy, one would hope that your opinion would be based on at least a smidgen of history and/or facts. Preferably both.
Your assertion (backed up by an obviously biased site) that pot is a gateway drug is erroneous. Perhaps cigarettes should be considered the gateway drug since most people I know start out with those!
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05-04-2009, 01:29 PM
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Conservatives are people too. No, really they are!
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Hopes said I should study history to learn about our laws and I guess the past on drugs. I really dont care about laws and history when it comes to legalization of pot, to me it doesnt change my opinion. And again its my opinion that legalizing pot will make it worse for our youth not better.
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Your opinion is incorrect. And not based in any point of fact.
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05-04-2009, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Magritte25
Your opinion is incorrect. And not based in any point of fact.
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My opinion is my opinion and does not need what you interpret as fact. If you think that the cite that I put up is incorrect than that is your opinion, ie: you have a right to have your opinion.
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05-04-2009, 04:18 PM
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I do not mean to step on anyones toes, but feel this debate needs further input.
Marijuana has never been proven to be a gateway drug. If one insists on calling marijuana a gateway drug alcohol should be classified one as well. Most people start their expierments with alcohol...thrill seekers who chase a more intense expierence will continue to seek stronger and more powerful drugs...they are not what this discussion was about. Marijanua has been used for medincial purposes for as long as it has exsisted.
Almost every study done on marijuana use has shown and increased chance of lung cancer...no direct correlation has been established. While pot may cause a psychological addiction similar to gambling, overeating, shopping there has never been any evidence that a PHYSICAL addiction is an end result. This alone seperates from the likes of cocaine, herion, prescription narcotics and yes folks ALCOHOL!
While some may wish to dismiss the historical reasons for pot being added to other hard drugs and being made illegal...it really is worth taking a look at to make an informed opinion.
Last edited by loveinbloom; 05-04-2009 at 04:19 PM..
Reason: because I think better than I type:)
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05-04-2009, 05:24 PM
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I comes straight from the ground Just like a Tomato' , oranges, apples , God put it there ,
If he did not want it to be used he would have made it like poison Ivy.. who am I to argue ..
To each their own . who is to say whats right or wrong ,,I eat pork . some people dont ..
Some only drive American cars , Some dont ,, who's to say who's right or wrong ? Who is the Judge ..?
Marijuana Has more to offer than it has to cause problems .. IMO
If America would take a poll the numbers would tell the tale ...
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05-04-2009, 05:39 PM
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Since half of Pittston is already on pot, why not just legalize it already?! LOL! 
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05-04-2009, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ScranBarre
Since half of Pittston is already on pot, why not just legalize it already?! LOL! 
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ONLY half ..  .. I guess there is more work to be done there ........... 
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05-04-2009, 05:59 PM
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ONLY half ..  .. I guess there is more work to be done there ........... 
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You funny!!!! lol.... 
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05-04-2009, 06:12 PM
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[SIZE=4]The residual cognitive effects of heavy marijuana use in college students[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]H. G. Pope Jr and D. Yurgelun-Todd [/SIZE]
[SIZE=-1]Biological Psychiatry Laboratory, McLean Hospital, Belmont, MA 02178, USA.[/SIZE] [SIZE=2]OBJECTIVE: To assess whether frequent marijuana use is associated with residual neuropsychological effects. DESIGN: Single-blind comparison of regular users vs infrequent users of marijuana. PARTICIPANTS: Two samples of college undergraduates: 65 heavy users, who had smoked marijuana a median of 29 days in the last 30 days (range, 22 to 30 days) and who also displayed cannabinoids in their urine, and 64 light users, who had smoked a median of 1 day in the last 30 days (range, 0 to 9 days) and who displayed no urinary cannabinoids. INTERVENTION: Subjects arrived at 2 PM on day 1 of their study visit, then remained at our center overnight under supervision. Neuropsychological tests were administered to all subjects starting at 9 AM on day 2. Thus, all subjects were abstinent from marijuana and other drugs for a minimum of 19 hours before testing. MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES: Subjects received a battery of standard neuropsychological tests to assess general intellectual functioning, abstraction ability, sustained attention, verbal fluency, and ability to learn and recall new verbal and visuospatial information. RESULTS: Heavy users displayed significantly greater impairment than light users on attention/executive functions, as evidenced particularly by greater perseverations on card sorting and reduced learning of word lists. These differences remained after controlling for potential confounding variables, such as estimated levels of premorbid cognitive functioning, and for use of alcohol and other substances in the two groups. CONCLUSIONS: Heavy marijuana use is associated with residual neuropsychological effects even after a day of supervised abstinence from the drug. However, the question remains open as to whether this impairment is due to a residue of drug in the brain, a withdrawal effect from the drug, or a frank neurotoxic effect of the drug. from marijuana [/SIZE]
This comes from JAMA. I think this is a reputable source, lol!!! What I am wondering what happens to someone that smokes everyday for 5-10 years not 30 days.
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05-04-2009, 06:27 PM
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Gateway drug, DUI, on and and on, that wasn't the question. We're not talking about going down to the 7-11 and buying a pack of smokes in a cardboard box heavily taxed by the government. The question is: should marijuana be administered, medically, to seriously or terminally ill patients?
After watching my MIL waste away from breast cancer, three bouts, being hospitalized repeatedly with heart problems and seizures due to the fact that she couldn't eat or even tolerate water (the anti-nausea medication didn't work or she couldn't keep it down) makes me wish that avenue had been available to her. She was an ex-smoker, might have complained, would have considered it if suggested by her Dr., but she would not have entertained the idea if it was illegal.
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