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Old 05-02-2009, 03:58 PM
 
Location: NJ
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You guys have a right to be as conservative as you want to be, obviously, but winning elections almost always requires winning the moderates. You really do have to appeal to the center unless your plan is to try to galvanize enough conservatives to overwhelm the liberal and moderate voters in every election.
i dont understand where this notion is coming from.

the republicans nominated john mccain. we all know the right wingers hate him.

the democrats nominated obama. a communist.

which party has gone more from the center?

 
Old 05-02-2009, 03:58 PM
 
Location: new mexico
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Yes, but the rest of the Christian conservatives don't wish to force Christianity on everyone.

As far as the list you mentioned, as a conservative I am:

1) pro-life, with exceptions for rape and medical necessity; but this includes anti-war and anti-capital punishment

2) strongly anti-illegal

3) pro-tax cuts

4) pro-spending cuts

5) pro-capitalist

6) pro-reasonable environmental restrictions, though they should be imposed by states

True conservatives are anti-war and anti-federal control.

Bush was not a true conservative, he was pro, pro, pro spending.

Im with you... changing is not an option. Although times progress and things always get worse, the hardest thing to do -- and true test of a man's charactor is sticking to his beliefs even when not popular.

We must stick to them because they are right. Give an inch to some pansy middle-roader and they will take a mile.
 
Old 05-02-2009, 04:01 PM
 
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Im with you... changing is not an option. Although times progress and things always get worse, the hardest thing to do -- and true test of a man's charactor is sticking to his beliefs even when not popular.

We must stick to them because they are right. Give an inch to some pansy middle-roader and they will take a mile.
i wouldn't call a middle -roader a pansy. i would call them the most sane.
 
Old 05-02-2009, 04:02 PM
 
Location: NJ
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We must stick to them because they are right. Give an inch to some pansy middle-roader and they will take a mile.
exactly, they want you to give and give and give when they wont give an inch.
 
Old 05-02-2009, 04:02 PM
 
Location: new mexico
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i wouldn't call a middle -roader a pansy. i would call them the most sane.
I would call them insane. Go with the flow - sell outs are the reason our country is such a mess right now.
 
Old 05-02-2009, 04:02 PM
 
Location: The Planet Mars
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I should also mention that I am against trying to criminalize acts such as sodomy, fornication, etc. I support access to contraceptives and support comprehensive sex ed programs in schools.

The extreme RW crap is nauseating to me.
The endless labeling of the left as liberal, communist, socialist uber-crap in order to score childish debating points is nauseating to me...
 
Old 05-02-2009, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Texas
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The endless labeling of the left as liberal, communist, socialist uber-crap in order to score childish debating points is nauseating to me...
The endless labeling of how terrible conservatives are is also nauseating to me.
 
Old 05-02-2009, 04:04 PM
 
Location: new mexico
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The endless labeling of the left as liberal, communist, socialist uber-crap in order to score childish debating points is nauseating to me...
But yet it is true!

Socialists infiltrate our schools and brainwash our children.
 
Old 05-02-2009, 04:05 PM
 
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The only conservative base the Republicans have is Ron Paul.

The pigs surrounding him can go their well-earned slaughter.
 
Old 05-02-2009, 04:06 PM
 
Location: NJ
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But yet it is true!

Socialists infiltrate our schools and brainwash our children.
its amazing how much you learn in school and then find out it was all BS when you leave school and join the real world.

for example, whenever there was an international issue in school and the teacher asked what should be done. the answer they brainwashed you to say was "the United Nations should get involved." as an adult, we know the UN is nothing but a bunch of corrupt third world terrorists.
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