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View Poll Results: On social issues, how would you categorize yourself?
Very conservative 5 6.58%
Generally conservative 7 9.21%
Moderate, leaning conservative 11 14.47%
Moderate 6 7.89%
Moderate, leaning liberal 8 10.53%
Generally liberal 26 34.21%
Very liberal 13 17.11%
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Old 05-03-2009, 08:53 AM
 
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some people plead guilty. that is beyond doubt. yes, beyond reasonable doubt.

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Question...in your earlier post, you said "proven beyond doubt". Do you mean "reasonable doubt" as is the current burden of proof or beyond ANY doubt?

Because it would be impossible for anyone to ever be proven guilty beyond any doubt, regardless of circumstances.
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Old 05-03-2009, 08:56 AM
 
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public hanging would be great. if you get to see it, you might think twice about pulling that trigger. I would also bring back the act of tar and feathering. guess that would go for a lesser crime.
Actually, I do agree with you on some of these things. Public humiliation really can work. I love the tar and feather idea, although man - I think that stuff permanently scars the skin. Maybe you know that already.

Caning would be good too.
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Old 05-03-2009, 08:59 AM
 
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some people plead guilty. that is beyond doubt. yes, beyond reasonable doubt.
And some people are manipulated into pleading guilty. Many murderers and suspected murderers have a laundry list of mental issues.

It is very rare for someone to plead guilty, BTW, in a DP case unless it is as a part of a plea bargain to AVOID the death sentence.
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Old 05-03-2009, 09:00 AM
 
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I should also mention....a "work camp" component should be added to all prisons as another poster suggested.
Yeah, I could go for that, as long as it's productive. I'm not into that Sheriff Arpaio silliness with making guys wear pink underwear.
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Old 05-03-2009, 09:01 AM
 
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I got a solution for that. luke warm tar.

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Actually, I do agree with you on some of these things. Public humiliation really can work. I love the tar and feather idea, although man - I think that stuff permanently scars the skin. Maybe you know that already.

Caning would be good too.
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Old 05-03-2009, 09:01 AM
 
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It is very rare for someone to plead guilty, BTW, in a DP case
Now, now, this isn't the place to talk about porn.
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Old 05-03-2009, 09:02 AM
 
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I am for the legalization of all drugs. all keeping drugs illegal does is create a sub culture of crime. all drugs are legal anyways, you just need to go to the right doctor. drugs are kept illegal because you can't patent cocaine or weed.
This is what I said on an earlier thread re: legalizing drugs....

The consequences of legalizing drugs would be horrendous. What is the most commonly used drug? ALCOHOL. Why? Because it's LEGAL! And think of the endless consequences alcohol has on society....not only on the person using it.

If heroin, methampetamine, cocaine, LSD, etc. were legalized, they would be far more commonly used. The numbers who use alcohol compared to the numbers who use these substances prove it. The effects of these drugs are worse than the effects of alcohol and the negative consequences for society will be worse as well.
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Old 05-03-2009, 09:02 AM
 
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ok, then they don't get the death sentence. with my plan, they will spend the rest of their life as a public slave in our prisons. that's a death sentence in itself.

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And some people are manipulated into pleading guilty. Many murderers and suspected murderers have a laundry list of mental issues.

It is very rare for someone to plead guilty, BTW, in a DP case unless it is as a part of a plea bargain to AVOID the death sentence.
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Old 05-03-2009, 09:04 AM
 
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if no death penalty, then they spend their entire life as a public slave in our prison system.

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And some people are manipulated into pleading guilty. Many murderers and suspected murderers have a laundry list of mental issues.

It is very rare for someone to plead guilty, BTW, in a DP case unless it is as a part of a plea bargain to AVOID the death sentence.
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Old 05-03-2009, 09:05 AM
 
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if no death penalty, then they spend their entire life as a public slave in our prison system.
That's 100% fine with me.
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