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Old 05-06-2009, 07:16 AM
 
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Interesting that Joe ("morning Joe") Scarborough, former R congressman from the "redneck Riviera" scolded the Republicans this morning for not being able to explain their plan. This was after 5 minutes of Kantor tap dancing around an answer to how the Rs would fix health care.

Kantor gave the typical response; blah, blah, "access to doctors", blah blah, "lower the cost", blah, blah, "our plan is better". Joe's only problem is that instead of pressing Kantor for "specifics" he just let him ramble on and then sign off. When he came back for the next segment he said that the problem the current R party has is that "if" they have a plan for anything; environment, health care, the economy, they've yet to tell anyone what the plan is, hence "the party of NO".

Nice to see one of their own, who doesn't have to worry about Limbaugh, take them on. Here's the "talking points" from the Rs, notice that there is no alternative plan:

Health care; in addition to the above it's also, "choice of doctors", "bureaucracy" (as if dealing with insurance companies is not a nightmare), "socialism.

Environment; "C&T is a huge tax", OK, let's assume that it'll have to be paid for otherwise "market based solutions" can't work-becuase polluting is always cheaper than not-what's your plan? Answer, nothing.

Somehow these guys can't give an answer to the most basic question. Last night Chris Matthews asked Mike Pence, R/IN whether or not he believed in evolution, his answer was that "god created everything", when asked to elaborate he either could not or would not. Matthews pressed him about 5 times and that was his stock answer, other than accusing Matthews of using "gotcha" questions.

Good lord, the only reason I can assume ANYONE follows these guys is CURIOUSITY.

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Old 05-06-2009, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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The republican party isn't patient enough to allow the Democrats' Keynesian hocus pocus witchdoctor practices to fail and pick up the dropped ball. They have to accept 2010 would be a stalemate or even a slight loss.
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Old 05-06-2009, 07:23 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Cool There's no cure for stupid...

The GOP is currently in pitiful disarray and none of them seem to even notice. As far as I can tell, their current positions are in favor of three things:

1. torture

2. tax cuts for millionaires

3. trickle-down for the rest of us

And they're against:

1. fixing the economy

2. fixing health care

3. green technology

4. science

5. public education

6. anything Obama says or does

And they think this is a winning formula?

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Old 05-06-2009, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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For many people it is far easier and much more comforting to follow than to think. Thinking can, and usually does, lead to uncomfortable and uncertain conclusions. Following leads to the comfort of "God Loves Me" and the "They" cost me my job. By surrendering thought these people surrender responsibility. That, for some, is worth any loss of freedom.
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Old 05-06-2009, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Sacramento
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The republican party isn't patient enough to allow the Democrats' Keynesian hocus pocus witchdoctor practices to fail and pick up the dropped ball. They have to accept 2010 would be a stalemate or even a slight loss.
You have hit the key point in the whole series of discussions concerning future direction for the Republicans. Their main strategy will generally result from negative outcomes associated with current decisions.

However, it takes some time for the results to become apparent. At this moment, it is difficult to articulate much of a strategy against the Democrats because it would be like running against Santa Claus. Most folks are just being showered with gifts, such as rebates on taxes they never paid in the first place, or being led to believe they won't have to pay federal income taxes in the future. Add in the pandering to their jealousy against the folks who are wealthy because they actually make an economic contribution, and that is a tough package to currently defeat.

However, unlike Santa Claus, these current gifts need to eventually be paid for by fellow citizens. As folks begin to figure out that the gifts will eventually be discontinued, they will begin to turn on the Democrats.

Such is life when you are just a "taker".

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Old 05-06-2009, 07:26 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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For 8 years the Republicans didn't have a plan and they tried to hide this fact by perpetuating war. I as well as millions of others are calling for them to get the hell off of the stage. They have shown quite clearly that they don't belong. Conservatives and Republicans are nothing more than what they've always been: a barrier to progress, enlightenment, and growth.
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Old 05-06-2009, 07:32 AM
 
Location: I currently exist only in a state of mind. one too complex for geographic location.
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let me address your statements.

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The GOP is currently in pitiful disarray and none of them seem to even notice. As far as I can tell, their current positions are in favor of three things:

1. torture democrats torture as well.

2. tax cuts for millionaires false statement

3. trickle-down for the rest of us wah

And they're against:

1. fixing the economy barry has destroyed the economy

2. fixing health care government is the problem, not the solution

3. green technology there is no such thing

4. science science is the same thing as religion. blind faith.

5. public education public education is a joke

6. anything Obama says or does actually this is 40% of americans

And they think this is a winning formula?
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Old 05-06-2009, 07:37 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Smile every complex issue has a simple, easy to understand solution that doesn't work.

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let me address your statements.

Well, who could possibly argue with that?

http://galatiansc4v16.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/strawman2.jpeg (broken link)

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Old 05-06-2009, 07:39 AM
 
Location: I currently exist only in a state of mind. one too complex for geographic location.
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I addresed your comments. you have no reply to my comments, so fine. whatever.

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Well, who could possibly argue with that?
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Old 05-06-2009, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I addresed your comments. you have no reply to my comments, so fine. whatever.
I'm guessing the posted image FAIL was probably the crying baby one.
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