Is it unfortunate to be an Asian male? (generation, American, Hispanic)

[ducksburg]

I just read a post on interracial dating and marriage which prompted me to come up with this idea.
Asian males seem to be at disadvantage.Being Asian is okay,but being Asian male is not that great.
Will white/black/hispanic females take Asian males into account when it comes to dating and marriage?

[Martin Karadagian]

Originally Posted by ducksburg

I just read a post on interracial dating and marriage which prompted me to come up with this idea.
Asian males seem to be at disadvantage.Being Asian is okay,but being Asian male is not that great.
Will white/black/hispanic females take Asian males into account when it comes to dating and marriage?

I think both Asian males as well as Asian females are at a disadvantage as far as dating in the English speaking world. Any non-white racial group in general is at a disadvantage. This is just in general, eliminating personal issues aside.

If one checks a typical internet dating forum, a common question a non-white person will ask is; what are their chances of them dating a person from another race, often white. Or they may ask what their chances are in certain areas, or versus other areas. However, often at times a white person will state that because they have a certain racial preference other than white, they will therefore proceed to obtain someone from that racial group. It doesn't seem to matter what the white person looks like. For one, if nothing else for a white male wanting an attractive female, there's always mail order brides and/or similar services.

As far as Asian females being at a disadvantage, they may not as far as getting a date, but they seem to be finding out more and more that they're victims of racial stereotype as well as Asian males. They seem to be finding out more and more the plurality vs. singular attraction many white males have for Asian females. They're beginning to see the oxymoron of a white male who's dating or even married to an Asian female, saying "I love Asian women" vs. "I love a woman who by sheer coincidence happens to be Asian, and if she woke up white, black, Hispanic, Arab, etc. the next day I would still love her". I've seen this in life outside the internet (not someone waking up another race, but having Asian female addiction even while being married). I think the **** is in it's beginning stages of hitting the fan, but the splatter marks have already begun.

I'm not Asian, so I can't really say for sure what Asian men need to do, but i have my opinion. Most people would say work on one's personal being, and not worry about the stereotypes.

While I agree with one working on themselves personally, I don't think that's enough. Because many Asian males are educated, middle to upper-middle class, etc., some believe that media stereotype should not be an issue. Well, another area where Asian females do come out ahead in assimilating into the white world is that there's apparent evidence that an Asian female out of college is more likely to get hired than an Asian male. This theory or fact may get skewed by the fact that Silicon Valley imports Asian and South Asian males for high-tech jobs that pay very highly. But this is because it's an advantage to the companies that hire them. They're bringing them in because they're really that talented. It's not an Affirmative Action type issue. It's like the Japanese players brought in to Major League Baseball. They don't bring them in to give MLB more of a foreign flair. This players are really that good.

The stereotype is very damaging. We're talking 100 years plus of it ingrained into our psyche. It works the same way as TV commercials. We're on to their game. We all know why we run off to 7-11 late at night just for a craving/fix. They know that we know we're on to their game, and they still run cheesy corny advertisements because it still works. The stand-up comedians, comedy movies, and movies in general can use the same stereotypes over and over, because after all these years it still works.

In the early 20th century, the movies used stereotype for comedy affect using stereotypes of black-Americans. If a movie wanted comedy relief, all they had to do was hire Montan Morland as secondary character. Make him a butler or side-kick, have him think he's seeing a ghost, and you had instant comedy relief. But eventually, through protest this method is no longer used. What's happened instead however, is that some white liberals have gone to the other extreme of highlighting their heroics pertaining to black racial issues, and thus ignoring other non-white racial issues.

I've found a lot out from sites like 'Asian-Nation' that are very informative. Through these type of sites, there's avenue made to find out where to petition against things like commercial clothing with demeaning pictures or slogans, and who to send protesting emails to in Hollwood.

The thing is, there's absolutely no argument against the facts. Each time the facts are brought to attention, the white media has nothing to say. There's no concrete answer as to why the American media has taken such measures to emasculate the Asian male. All they can do is hope it's not brought up enough to avoid embarrassment. All that just to say, yeah, I think stereotype needs to be fought. If not, the majority of whites in America are more than happy to coax along the jokes and stereotype.

[spunky1]

Originally Posted by ducksburg

I just read a post on interracial dating and marriage which prompted me to come up with this idea.
Asian males seem to be at disadvantage.Being Asian is okay,but being Asian male is not that great.
Will white/black/hispanic females take Asian males into account when it comes to dating and marriage?

Huh? What on earth is wrong with being an Asian Male?? "not that great". . .what is not that great about being an Asian male?

[dreameyes]

Like I said in another thread; Love is Blind.
I always found Aian Males to be very attreactive and wouldof had no problem at all dating or marrying one.

[FilmCutter]

Originally Posted by ducksburg

I just read a post on interracial dating and marriage which prompted me to come up with this idea.
Asian males seem to be at disadvantage.Being Asian is okay,but being Asian male is not that great.
Will white/black/hispanic females take Asian males into account when it comes to dating and marriage?

I'm Black and I would definitely date an Asian guy. I've met a lot of hot Asians guys in college. I just wonder how Asian males feel about Black females. I don't see many Asian male/Black female couples.

[spunky1]

I agree there are a lot of good-looking Asian males.

[FilmCutter]

Rick Yune, the guy whose sister was dating Vin Diesel in "Fast and the Furious". So hot. I wish they'd give him bigger, leading man roles. That guy is gorgeous.

[Wisteria]

My 17-year-old daughter goes crazy for Asian guys!! She thinks they are "HOT!"

Seriously, there is a large group of kids entering college who are really into Asian culture -- all kinds. Part of it is, obviously, the global economy and world we live in -- we're exposed to many more things now.

I know for the young adult women I know, they find many Asian men QUITE handsome! In our home, my daughter is into Korean Pop music -- so she has big posters of Shin Wa and Se7en on her bedroom walls. Korean pop culture has definitely found its way to the young adults of today. My daughter orders most of her Asian items from YesAsia.com. We take trips to Japan Town in San Jose for our mochi fix, and then we also go to Chinatown in San Francisco. She likes to oogle the cute guys!

And anime has introduced a whole other world of Asian culture to girls/boys here. There are lots of anime clubs in both colleges and high schools now, anime conventions all over the country, lots of anime books and sections in stores.

Chinese culture has been a little less, I think because its just emerging outside the U.S. as a cultural identity (outside of American Chinatowns). Chinese pop music isn't up there yet, and other cultural aspects haven't reached those of Japan or South Korea, in particular. I also have a good friend in Malaysia who sends us our Asian goodies that we love.

We had a teenaged Chinese foreign exchange student, and she brought a dvd of her playing in her school orchestra (violin, of course), and she and my daughter had arguments over which boy was the cutest!

I have a good friend married to a Filipino man and they have two kids and have been together for decades. And we sometimes attend a Burmese Buddhist Temple nearby.

I think nowadays if an Asian guy (in particular) finds it difficult to date outside of his race, it's because he's not looking in the right places. I don't know how many Asian-Americans keep their language, however, we took Japanese at a local community college and then joined a "Meet-up" language study group. We were able to meet some nice guys through that, and my daughter had a crush on one of them (but he was too old for her). My daughter also has an online "pen pal" from South Korea with whom she corresponds most days.

I think there are plenty of opportunities for Asian guys. Maybe you just need to know that those opportunities ARE there.

[LongHornGuy86]

I think many Asians have deep rooted insecurities that they need to get over before they can become attractive to anyone.

I'd also disagree with the poster who stated that Asian females are at a disadvantage. They seem to go wild over the white meat (ANY white meat), and in turn can get it. So this leaves Asian males, who sadly, for various reasons, are not highly sought after in the dating pool, dateless.

I can understand why you may be bitter or angry, bro. While good looking intelligent black young men such as myself may not have a problem getting dates, it's a constant quest to disprove the prevalent and dubious negative racial stereotypes.

[HIF]

I find Asian males very attractive and was not aware that there was any "issue" about them. My daughter likes anything Asian, and with anime being so hot, I'm guessing that if there is any reluctance about dating men who are Asian, it is one generation away from being an obsolete concept. Here is my daughter at her Sailor Moon b-day party.