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Old 05-07-2009, 08:05 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Explain to me how you can have both socialism and private property.

Don't worry, I'll wait.
Socialism:a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.
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Old 05-07-2009, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Texas
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If I owned that land I would have put it into a conservation easement, or flooded it and made it a wetland, to keep the federal government's hands off it. I still can't believe how much land they're taking for that stupid memorial.
It's not stupid - the people on Flight 93 were true heroes. They were able to avert a disaster in Washington.

That said, it seems there could be a better solution than taking away private land.
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Old 05-07-2009, 08:31 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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It's not stupid - the people on Flight 93 were true heroes. They were able to avert a disaster in Washington.

That said, it seems there could be a better solution than taking away private land.
It is if you have looked at the plans and what's going on. An acre or two I wouldn't have an issue with. 2200 acres is absurd.
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Old 05-07-2009, 08:47 AM
 
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It's not stupid - the people on Flight 93 were true heroes. They were able to avert a disaster in Washington.

That said, it seems there could be a better solution than taking away private land.

Why didn't they seize hundreds of acres in NY city?
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Old 05-07-2009, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Why didn't they seize hundreds of acres in NY city?
They didn't but they are planning a memorial there. I do not support them seizing 2,200 acres - a few as the previous poster mentioned, yes. But NOT 2,200.
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Old 05-07-2009, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Ok, does anyone remember when obama and the lefties were hollering about "air raiding" villages and killing innocent civilians?

What happened to the outrage?

http://hotair.cachefly.net/images/2009-05/brookes.jpg (broken link)


YouTube - Obama: troops just airraiding villages and killing civilians

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Old 05-07-2009, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Martinsville, NJ
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It is if you have looked at the plans and what's going on. An acre or two I wouldn't have an issue with. 2200 acres is absurd.
Any seizure of private property for the purpose of a memorial would be absurd. While I agree that the Heroes of Flight 93 were heroes in the truest sense of the word, and I agree that there ought to be a fantastic memorial to them and their bravery, I simply CANNOT suggest that it be erected on land that is TAKEN from someone who would rather not give it. Find a spot where the owner is happy to give or sell the space, and put the memorial there.
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Old 05-07-2009, 03:01 PM
 
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I used the search function to find old posts related to Bush and civilian deaths in Iraq. The results were as expected: because of civilian deaths in Iraq, Bush was labled a murderer . Given the 100 civilian deaths yesterday, do any on the Left now view Obama a murderer?
Is this a serious question? Honestly?
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Old 05-07-2009, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Martinsville, NJ
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And I have to say, NO. President Obama cannot be called a murderer becasue of the innocent civilians that were killed yesterday. Those deaths go squarely on the heads of the dirtbags we are hunting over there, the taliban. The news I hear now is that the taliban lured American forces to a prechosen spot, and intentionally put those civilians there to be killed, perhaps even going so far as to lob the kiling grenades in themselves when American forces didn't kill them.

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Old 05-07-2009, 07:10 PM
 
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Is this a serious question? Honestly?
Of course it is. For years we have heard numerous Democrats accuse Bush of being a murderer. Several frequent posters here have called for him to be tried post-Presidency for torture and war crimes against civilians. Given that Obama is now President, supports the war in Afghanastan, has called for tens of thousands of new troops to the region, and he was CIC this week when 100+ civilians were killed, why has there been no outrage? Is he not a murderer as well? Help me understand the distinction, please.
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