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Old 05-09-2009, 12:19 PM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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Regarding the "alleged" global warming issue. (Which, incidentally, I do not believe exists, but I digress).

*If* the planet is undergoing a global warming crisis. And *if* that global warming crisis is directly related to the levels of CO2 in the air (Carbon Dixode).

How come we don't just plant more trees?

Trees turn CO2 into oxygen (unless my highschool science teacher lied to me).

Instead of clear cutting BAZILLIONS of acres of treed forests to build McMansions, developments, resorts, and shopping malls, why don't the ecology minded people simply ENCOURAGE people to plan more trees?

I went to a lecture a couple of years ago. The historian stated that when Lewis and Clark traversed this country a couple of hundred years ago (whenever it was....I don't remember the exact year, sorry) that "as far as they went", it was SOLID Forest. And we're not talking 100 acre woods here. Forest that you could almost not GET THROUGH because the tree growth was so incredibly dense. Ga-Jillions of trees for thousands and thousands of miles.

All turning carbon dioxide into oxygen.

Am I the ONLY PERSON who sees how simple the solution to this "alleged" crisis is?

I don't get it.

20yrsinBranson
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Old 05-09-2009, 12:39 PM
 
Location: planet octupulous is nearing earths atmosphere
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we have just a little over three quarter of an acer and i planted like 1000 palms on it over the past 20 years.. it's a jungle.. i've been planting palms and trees on public lands and beaches for about 5 years now.. wish i started earlier. i think our yard is the most planted yard on all of st croix us vi..and i mulch all the debris..it's a win win for all and more people should get out there and do it!!!

i look at our yard as a cabon sink and a oxygen factory
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Old 05-09-2009, 12:44 PM
 
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Originally Posted by 20yrsinBranson View Post
.....How come we don't just plant more trees?

Trees turn CO2 into oxygen (unless my highschool science teacher lied to me).

Instead of clear cutting BAZILLIONS of acres of treed forests to build McMansions, developments, resorts, and shopping malls, why don't the ecology minded people simply ENCOURAGE people to plan more trees?

.............
A lot of partial solutions to problems are indeed simple. I think global warming is real but I agree that we should be planting more trees. Sometimes, simple solutions are not taken seriously. For example, the call to check tire pressures was met with real sarcasm, yet it will reduce oil comsumption. Calls for us to exercise more are also ignored since it is so much easier to pop a pill. We all know these things but are somehow reluctant to act on them.
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Old 05-09-2009, 12:57 PM
 
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I think lobal warming is real as well. can you tell me why yo think it isn't I have always wondered why people didn't believe and have never heard why. I think the reason we don't plant more trees is the same reason we cut them down in mass....$$$$$$$$$$$
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Old 05-09-2009, 01:01 PM
 
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I'm with you on the tree planting thing.
Well, I will be when I have some land.

But its not limited to trees right?
Or do trees consume more carbon dioxide for the buck (space used)?

I ask because I am accomplished at growing ice-plant.

Found an answer to my question, but take it with the usual grain of salt (its from yahoo answers):
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Plants do not convert carbon dioxide into oxygen. Plants take the oxygen out of water, H2O, and transpirate, or "exhale" in animal terms, the oxygen from the water into a gas in our atmosphere. Plants do indeed take in and use carbon dioxide in photosynthesis, and more trees does mean less CO2 in the atmosphere. Planting more trees will not solve the global warming problem. Reducing greenhouse gas emissions will.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...8173311AAQZhmW
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Old 05-09-2009, 01:03 PM
 
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I don't know, trees aren't that expensive. I was just at the Home Depot and they had quite a few Maple trees oh about 10-15 ft high for under $50.

I know that every house my dh and I have owned we have always planted trees. It is kind of a kick to see all of our old houses with beautiful large trees on the properties, even if they were quite small while we lived there.
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Old 05-09-2009, 01:07 PM
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Location: MA/NH
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I think that where the trees are planted and what kind matters also. I think that we need to protect the planet's rainforests and replant so as to bring back their original acreage. Cutting down those rainforests has a real effect on our weather patterns.
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Old 05-09-2009, 01:10 PM
 
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That same yahoo answers has this suggestion, as the least expensive answer to global warming.

Sounds very interesting, and sounds cheap.

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The process is called: "Iron-Catalyzed Plankton Restoration". marine phytoplankton have annually absorbed and fixed nearly half of all planetary CO2 emissions or approximately 50 billion tons/year. Seeding plankton poor regions in the South Atlantic Is the least expensive and most envorimentaly benefical strategy....

The effects are dramatic one pound of iron dispersed over an expanse of sea water will fix 100,000 pounds of Carbon
Again: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...8173311AAQZhmW
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Old 05-09-2009, 01:12 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Originally Posted by 20yrsinBranson View Post
Regarding the "alleged" global warming issue. (Which, incidentally, I do not believe exists, but I digress).

*If* the planet is undergoing a global warming crisis. And *if* that global warming crisis is directly related to the levels of CO2 in the air (Carbon Dixode).

How come we don't just plant more trees?

Trees turn CO2 into oxygen (unless my highschool science teacher lied to me).

Instead of clear cutting BAZILLIONS of acres of treed forests to build McMansions, developments, resorts, and shopping malls, why don't the ecology minded people simply ENCOURAGE people to plan more trees?

I went to a lecture a couple of years ago. The historian stated that when Lewis and Clark traversed this country a couple of hundred years ago (whenever it was....I don't remember the exact year, sorry) that "as far as they went", it was SOLID Forest. And we're not talking 100 acre woods here. Forest that you could almost not GET THROUGH because the tree growth was so incredibly dense. Ga-Jillions of trees for thousands and thousands of miles.

All turning carbon dioxide into oxygen.

Am I the ONLY PERSON who sees how simple the solution to this "alleged" crisis is?

I don't get it.

20yrsinBranson
Here is what you don't understand, scale. The CO2 output from a single steel mill or coal fired power plant for a single day might require 1 billion trees and entire year to remove. How many factories and power plants are there on Earth right now?

The problem is so big we're well past planting trees as a solution. Especially since when trees die and start rotting they release the stored CO2 back into the atmosphere.

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Old 05-09-2009, 01:17 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Oh, and you're also a complete retard if you're claiming photosynthesis takes long term CO2 out of the atmosphere is large quanities. Yes, CO2 is taken out when sugar is created but what do you think happens at night? The tree stops producing sugar (there is no sun light) and it starts burning its existing stores of sugar so that each night the tree actually takes in O2 and releases CO2. It does the same during the long winter months.

The only way trees actually sequestor carbon is in the production of wood. The problem is wood rots or is burned and then the carbon is released again. It's not a perminent sink unless you bury the wood as coal is buried. Of course it would be cheaper and easier to just not dig up the coal in the first place and instead use alternatives including nuclear power.
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