Why do conservatives always think liberals should be tolerant of their beliefs but are never tolerant themselves? (health care system, racist)

[afoigrokerkok]

Originally Posted by Theliberalvoice

Yeah like some people vote primarily on how they are against abortion. I am like "Ok...what is that going to go? Abortion is not going to go away no matter how pro life the president might be". Or they vote Republican because they hate gay people or something. Once again, I say "Gay people are not going to go anywhere just because you don't like them."

Yeah, it sucks that our laws are based of morality. The reason why I said that is because there is (once again) NO STANDARD of mortality. You might think abortion is immoral but I don't. You think gay marriage is immoral but I don't. You simply cannot reach an agreement with everyone on mortality so why not just use logic and reasoning? You know if we based our country of logic and reasoning and not some faith and morality BELIEFS (not proven), we would never be in this mess.

We can all agree on mortality actually. We are mortal.

As far as morality, the morality of the majority is what the laws are generally based off of. If the majority chooses to ignore its religious beliefs or personal morality and apply logic and reasoning, then the laws will be based off of that.

Yes there are certain protections in place to prevent the majority from completely trampling on the rights of the minority, but the majority's morals still play a HUGE role in the law.

[Theliberalvoice]

Originally Posted by afoigrokerkok

We can all agree on mortality actually. We are mortal.

As far as morality, the morality of the majority is what the laws are generally based off of. If the majority chooses to ignore its religious beliefs or personal morality and apply logic and reasoning, then the laws will be based off of that.

Yes there are certain protections in place to prevent the majority from completing trampling on the rights of the minority, but the majority's morals still play a HUGE role in the law.

hahaha.

Yeah I agree.

Personally, I think it is very very stupid to vote based on your religion but whatever pleases you I guess. I personally have a lot of theories about how religion has done worse for America than better.

I am for the people, not for the religious. You hate gays? Fine. You hate abortion? Fine. But don't you dare push it on to other people or tell them how to live in a country that is supposed to be "free" and have "justice for all".

I don't think so. Not for one minute.

[Greatday]

You will never have a consensus on what is "logical" and what is not. The same with "reasoning" - what does that mean.

350 Million plus people - diverse ideas - all different.

We are a nation of individuals - not sheep

[Greatday]

Originally Posted by Theliberalvoice

I am for the people, not for the religious.

Yet over 80% of the "people" identify themselves as being "religious".

[afoigrokerkok]

Originally Posted by Theliberalvoice

hahaha.

Yeah I agree.

Personally, I think it is very very stupid to vote based on your religion but whatever pleases you I guess. I personally have a lot of theories about how religion has done worse for America than better.

I am for the people, not for the religious. You hate gays? Fine. You hate abortion? Fine. But don't you dare push it on to other people or tell them how to live in a country that is supposed to be "free" and have "justice for all".

I don't think so. Not for one minute.

Religion has done many good and bad things for America. I do not vote based on religion and I wasn't talking about myself....I was simply trying to explain how religion does play a role in the law.

Personally, I'm for the people (and not for the religious) as well but you and I have differing opinions of what that means. Even when you take morality/religion out of it, there are STILL differing opinions and what constitutes "freedom" and "justice for all" is NOT so black and white.

[Theliberalvoice]

Originally Posted by Greatday

Yet over 80% of the "people" identify themselves as being "religious".

I dont care if people are religious. Really. I still think it stupid they vote based on religion but whatever.

I am for the people regardless of religion. Why would you even say 80 percent of "people" are religious?

Also, do you have a link to prove that?

[Icy Tea]

Conservatives are intolerant but not as intolerant as liberals. They're also hateful but not as hateful as liberals. Conservatives are what they are but at least they aren't as hypocritical as the left.

[afoigrokerkok]

Originally Posted by Theliberalvoice

I dont care if people are religious. Really. I still think it stupid they vote based on religion but whatever.

I am for the people regardless of religion. Why would you even say 80 percent of "people" are religious?

Also, do you have a link to prove that?

Massive study finds most Americans devout, tolerant - Local News Updates - The Boston Globe

Liberalvoice, I think you should consider that things are not quite as black and white as they may seem.

[Greatday]

Originally Posted by Theliberalvoice

I dont care if people are religious. Really. I still think it stupid they vote based on religion but whatever.

I am for the people regardless of religion. Why would you even say 80 percent of "people" are religious?

Also, do you have a link to prove that?

Religious identification in the U.S.

Today, 76 percent of the US population call themselves Christians, compared with 86 percent in 1990

Survey sees a drift away from religion in America | csmonitor.com

Politicians campaign on and to those people of faith. They hold meetings in Churches. They often identify on their websites what religious faith they belong to. They campaign on "family values"

[Theliberalvoice]

Originally Posted by Icy Tea

Conservatives are intolerant but not as intolerant as liberals. They're also hateful but not as hateful as liberals. Conservatives are what they are but at least they aren't as hypocritical as the left.

I disagree. Conservatives are both more intolerant and hateful then liberals. And they are so much more hypocritical. They are "pro life" and then want guns. They are "pro life" and for death penalty.

They are for smaller government yet want to tell gays and lesbians what to do. They are for smaller government but yet don't want to give women that choice. And they are against universal health care and "socialism" so even if someone who is pro life gives birth to child, they both suffer if they don't have the money for it.

See what I mean? Very hypocritical.