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Old 05-15-2009, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Under a bridge.
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Texas is so darn big it has to be diverse. A friend of ours worked in Huston for a few years and his family lived in Galveston. He called Huston seven oil refineries in a swamp. Molly Ivan’s Hill country is an entirely different world.

The Democratic Dixicrat conservatives (racists) moved wholesale to the Republicans when Johnson signed the Voting Rights Act. This brought Texas, with all its electoral votes, into the RED zone. As these diehard racists die off, Texas will gradually return to the BLUE side with a respect for individual freedom and responsible government.
So you are saying that Texas is predominantly a Republican state BECAUSE the majority of voters are racist? ---(I'm just trying to get your statement right.)
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Old 05-15-2009, 12:50 PM
 
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Love Austin! One of my favorite cities in the country
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Old 05-15-2009, 01:00 PM
 
Location: los angeles
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I don't think you would've liked too many of the Texas Democrats back when Texas was solid Blue - they were just as "bible belt" as their GOP counterparts today. For that matter I don't think you'd be fond of many Texas Democrats today - many of them resemble Mike Huckabee in their views.

If you think Texas was more "enlightened" when it was Dem, I urge you to Google the following names: John Nance Garner, Coke Stevenson, Beau Jester, Allan Shivers, Price Daniel....the list goes on and on.

What happened in Texas was that the Texas establishment switched from being Dems to being Republicans gradually. Texas went from a solid Dem state to a Dem state that voted GOP in presidential elections to a swing state to a red state.
Yes, you are correct [ie. "Dixiecrats"] but all those people are now Republican. The Democrats who are the majority in Texas' large cities are not "Dixiecrats" & voted for Obama. The number of Democrats are increasing while Republicans continue to decrease in Texas. It's just a matter of time [and not far off before the next Texas governor is Democratic
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Old 05-15-2009, 01:33 PM
 
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Texas is so darn big it has to be diverse. A friend of ours worked in Huston for a few years and his family lived in Galveston. He called Huston seven oil refineries in a swamp. Molly Ivan’s Hill country is an entirely different world.

The Democratic Dixicrat conservatives (racists) moved wholesale to the Republicans when Johnson signed the Voting Rights Act. This brought Texas, with all its electoral votes, into the RED zone. As these diehard racists die off, Texas will gradually return to the BLUE side with a respect for individual freedom and responsible government.

Don't agree with your last sentence. The left has a politically correct/nanny state side that is a great threat to individual freedom. In fact they are downright hostile to any speech or thoughts that go against their PC agenda.

I also disagree with Dems being associated with responsible government. Deficit spending is not responsible. Plenty of Reps could improve in this area as well.
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Old 05-15-2009, 01:47 PM
 
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I also disagree with Dems being associated with responsible government. Deficit spending is not responsible. .
Democrats under Clinton reduced the federal deficit.

Republicans under Bush and Reagon did not merely increase the deficit--they exploded it.

The economic and budetary problems that Obama is dealing with now, were part of the Bush's (Republican) administration.

So, tell me, who is more conservative: the "tax and spend" republicans, or the "pay off the debts" democrats?
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Old 05-15-2009, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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Democrats under Clinton reduced the federal deficit.

Republicans under Bush and Reagon did not merely increase the deficit--they exploded it.

The economic and budetary problems that Obama is dealing with now, were part of the Bush's (Republican) administration.

So, tell me, who is more conservative: the "tax and spend" republicans, or the "pay off the debts" democrats?
Ok. Clinton is not in office anymore. He was a good fiscal president in my opinion. Bush was not fiscally responsible, but neither is Obama. I don't think you can pin a democrat or republican lable to fiscal responsibility anymore folks.
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Old 05-15-2009, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Kentucky/ Displaced Texan
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As a Native Texan I love it,if you don't tell some one who cares.
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Old 05-15-2009, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Non-Texans, what is your view of our state, especially after Perry's secession rant?

Have other recent TX-related controversies, such as the boy being shot and the polygamist sect, also influenced your perception in any way? How about President Bush?

Quite honestly, I find Texans to be a special breed of stupid.
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Old 05-15-2009, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Yes, you are correct [ie. "Dixiecrats"] but all those people are now Republican. The Democrats who are the majority in Texas' large cities are not "Dixiecrats" & voted for Obama. The number of Democrats are increasing while Republicans continue to decrease in Texas. It's just a matter of time [and not far off before the next Texas governor is Democratic
You won't find any rabid fire-eating racist Dems in Texas anymore - they either switched parties or died off - but there are still Dixiecrats of a more moderate type, like Chet Edwards of Waco and Henry Cuellar of Laredo, both conservative Dem Congressmen in the Texas Democratic tradition. There are assuredly others in the Texas Legislature and in local governments. Obviously they're not coming from Austin or increasingly liberal Dallas. And yes I know not only Austin, Dallas, and San Antonio, but even Houston voted for Obama.
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Old 05-15-2009, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Kentucky/ Displaced Texan
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Quite honestly, I find Texans to be a special breed of stupid.

Ahh class something not to common around your parts I see. Funny I don't think your best day you could get into some of the state college in Texas.

Also, I have been to central Illinois and I wouldn't be attacking Texans.
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