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Old 05-12-2009, 09:50 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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I dont see how that is supposed to be a bad picture???

It has some side-boob. No nips. You see more of the women in the actual pageant.
i've seen far racier pics in the JC Penney catalog.

yet, it's enough to throw the far-left into a tizzy. go figure.

 
Old 05-12-2009, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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Trump is in his glory. What a win-win for him. And he'd love to have Perez Hilton back as a judge.

As for Prejean -- nice speech, well delivered. She was good. I'm sure she had speechwriters but who doesn't?

But that whole patriotism part was just wrong. Freedom of speech is not the issue. The Constitutions says the government cannot censor speech, it says nothing about anyone else. Hilton and other protester have as much freedom to say what they said as she has to say what she said. Trump owns the Miss Universe franchise and he can do what he damn well please as long as he isn't discriminating against a protected class.

And the pictures...well, duh. What a non-issue. Nothing more than a values hypocrisy thing good for a bit of a laugh

Last edited by Sagran; 05-12-2009 at 09:55 AM.. Reason: The doorbell rang and I forgot my train of thought
 
Old 05-12-2009, 09:52 AM
 
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expect the rage-filled left to try 10X harder to destroy her now.
Doesnt it tend to be the left who protest the pagents to begin with? I could be wrong, but I believe this to be the case..
 
Old 05-12-2009, 09:53 AM
 
Location: South Fla
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I think she deserves to have her opinion, and that she was attacked wrongfully for it.. But I also think her actions with the protect marriage group is absurd..participating in their press conference and commercials on their political issue.. it's not her place as someone that represents all of California
I don't have any respect for trump, ms. america, or carrie, at this point...not because I have anything against them, I just think the whole organization and it's people are a sham.
she's going to be the modern day Anita Bryant.. I hope she knows what she's getting herself into...
Seems her opinion does represent Ca since they voted no to gay marriage.
 
Old 05-12-2009, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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The patriotism part of the speech was wrong, I agree. Carrie feels that anyone should be able to express their opinions? Really??? Does she think the KKK or Nazi party members should be able to say whatever they want? To spew their hate? Her logic is absurd. That's the nicest way I can think of saying it.
 
Old 05-12-2009, 09:55 AM
 
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But that whole patriotism part was just wrong. Freedom of speech is not the issue. The Constitutions says the government cannot censor speech, it says nothing about anyone else. Hilton and other protester have as much freedom to say what they said as she has to say what she said. Trump owns the Miss Universe franchise and he can do what he damn well please as long as he isn't discriminating against a protected class.
Freedom of speech is what it was all about.. the left wanting to limit talk from people who disagree with them..

It wasnt Trump making an issue out of what she said, the speech was right on.
 
Old 05-12-2009, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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i've seen far racier pics in the JC Penney catalog.

yet, it's enough to throw the far-left into a tizzy. go figure.
No tizzy, just trying to clarify the morals and values of conservatives. Semi nude, suggestive pics okay as long as only the opposite sex admire them?

All clear to me now.
 
Old 05-12-2009, 09:55 AM
 
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The patriotism part of the speech was wrong, I agree. Carrie feels that anyone should be able to express their opinions? Really??? Does she think the KKK or Nazi party members should be able to say whatever they want? To spew their hate? Her logic is absurd. That's the nicest way I can think of saying it.
So you believe that people with unpopular beliefs should be silenced?
 
Old 05-12-2009, 09:56 AM
 
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The patriotism part of the speech was wrong, I agree. Carrie feels that anyone should be able to express their opinions? Really??? Does she think the KKK or Nazi party members should be able to say whatever they want? To spew their hate? Her logic is absurd. That's the nicest way I can think of saying it.
Yes, the KKK and Nazi party are entitled their opnion, no matter how wrong it is
 
Old 05-12-2009, 09:56 AM
 
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So you believe that people with unpopular beliefs should be silenced?
No. Of course not. Carrie has the right to be a bigot. So do you sadly, Mr. "Christian".

But hateful speech like yours, should be.
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