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Old 05-15-2009, 03:16 PM
 
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German Fascism organised the private sector into the Todt Organization and guess what happened if you didn't want to work with or let Herr Dr. Todt control your business?
But the German industralists supported Adolph. So it was a friendly takeover
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Old 03-09-2016, 03:26 PM
 
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Default None of this is Fascism

Fascism is not anything you said. None of those points define Fascism and in a way define every government that has existed


Fascism was created by Benito Mussolini an avowed Anarcho Syndicalist. Syndicalism is a Socialist ideology created by Mikhael Bakunin in the mid 1800s. Bakunin an emigrant to Italy from Russia and a friend and confident of Karl Marx. Syndicalist also known as Anarchists believed that a company should be controlled by its workers who would vote for who is CEO and other executive positions.


Mussolini thought this impractical so he developed Fascism which he called the Third Way between Capitalism and Communism. Instead of remaking the means of production from whole cloth as his fellow Marxists suggested he posited that instead the Fascist would take control of the stock of corporations and use heavy regulation to control private enterprise. Thus you got the competition of capitalism with the centralized control of the state or at least so he thought.


By the By the slashed A from the Vampire the Masquerade Game Brujah clan that the Occupy Whatever folks like to use as a symbol comes from Anarcho Syndicalism and thus is tied to Fascism.


I am a hard line right winger and therefore I believe in


Limited Government
Private Property Rights
Lower taxes
and decentralized government more locally sourced not controlled by central bureaucracy.


Fascists reject all of that! Proglydites do as well!


Barack Hussein Obama, the reincarnation of Benito Mussolini in his tenure as dictator has had the government take 60% of the stock of GM, 25% of the stock of Chrysler, 80% of the stock of AIG, 12% of the stock of Citigroup. Beyond that he has expanded banking legislation to give the government essential control over banks including the ability to force Bank of America to merge with Merrill Lynch against their will. Because of his action the number of large US banks is now half before he was in office and the banking sector as a whole has grown. With obamacare the government now controls the policies health insurance providers can make and can ration health care. But hey he was not done!


As part of the QE3 plan the government during his term has been secretly buying stock of the Fortune 1000 companies inflating the stock market with an artificial bubble in an attempt to hide the huge amount of money they printed and keep it from hitting the general market and causing rampant inflation.


Even when he sold off the stock the government absconded from investors he did not do it in a fair and open auction. Instead he gave sweetheart deals to Leftwing Wall Street insiders, Union Activists and foreign countries. As part of the GM bailout all of the dealership franchise contracts ended by government fiat were those individuals that gave to GOP candidates.


Fidel Castro stated after hearing about the auto bailouts...
"Raul Obama just nationalized GM, if we are not careful we will find ourselves to the right of him."


There is no denying that Fascism is a leftwing ideology. It embraces absolutely everything you proglydites want. Heck! the term "Social Justice" was invented by Fascists and Hitler used that term to justify the Holocaust and his treatment of Jews.


Sorry but you can't saddle the right with the blame for your leftwing authoritarians just because they get caught in their evil. Hard to be a dictator and have respect for private property and believe in limiting government to only those things absolutely needed!
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Old 03-09-2016, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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I think looking at it as left and right confuses the issue. Fascism is authoritarian and nationalistic. Left wingers and right wingers both have their fascist and anti-fascist sides...those who believe that individual human rights come before "what's best for the nation" or who don't support some state authority enforcing "what's best for the nation" on everyone are the most anti-fascist.

That famous Orwell quote seems to be more and more true...

"The real division is not between conservatives and revolutionaries, but between authoritarians and libertarians."
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