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View Poll Results: who's worse?
the US federal government 40 52.63%
the corporations in the US 18 23.68%
they are both evil 18 23.68%
they are both great 0 0%
Voters: 76. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-14-2015, 03:09 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Corporations are the creation of government. About the only thing government ever did right.
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Old 04-14-2015, 03:17 AM
 
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Corporations are the creation of government. About the only thing government ever did right.
How so?
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Old 04-14-2015, 03:19 AM
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In today's world, our choices are limited, unless your decision involves subsistence farming and/or hunting. Energy, housing, food and other necessities aren't optional.

Sure, you have options. Become a subsistence farmer. You may need to pay property tax, but other than that, you can live tax-free. Indeed, if you produce a surplus, you will be able to rent land, thus relieving yourself of property tax as well.

And guess what? You'll still be allowed to use those "nothings in return," such as police, fire, roads, schools, etc.
MRAPs, police state, the $100,000+/ann. fire dept. employee, with retirement and pension. What a fascinating way to wrap up an argument that non-private property is equivalent to freedom.

No books, no clue at city’s worst school | New York Post

Just add a city personal income tax (like NYC has).
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Old 04-14-2015, 03:22 AM
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In today's world, our choices are limited, unless your decision involves subsistence farming and/or hunting. Energy, housing, food and other necessities aren't optional.

Sure, you have options. Become a subsistence farmer. You may need to pay property tax, but other than that, you can live tax-free. Indeed, if you produce a surplus, you will be able to rent land, thus relieving yourself of property tax as well.

And guess what? You'll still be allowed to use those "nothings in return," such as police, fire, roads, schools, etc.
MRAPs, police state, the $100,000+/ann. fire dept. employee, with retirement and pension. What a fascinating way to wrap up an argument that non-private property is equivalent to freedom.

No books, no clue at city’s worst school | New York Post

Just add a city income tax like NYC has.
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Old 04-14-2015, 01:09 PM
 
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Corporations outsource everything to India or China.
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Old 04-14-2015, 01:14 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Governments are worse by far.

When you spend your money on yourself you care about the value and quality of the item purchased.
When you spend your money on others you care about the value but not the quality.
When you spend someone's else's money on others you care neither about value or quality.

This is why goverment will always be worse than business.
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Old 04-14-2015, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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The US Government because they are cronies being paid by the corporations. Remove the political cronies, and the corporations stragleghold will be broken.

You have to fix the systemic problems first.
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Old 04-14-2015, 02:19 PM
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The US Government because they are cronies being paid by the corporations. Remove the political cronies, and the corporations stragleghold will be broken.

You have to fix the systemic problems first.
And they are progressively leftist cronies that heist astonomical amounts of money from the private middle class in order to transfer it to corporations.
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Old 04-14-2015, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Corporations are the creation of government. About the only thing government ever did right.
The ability to incorporate is a government invention (in a sense), however the corporations themselves are not. Corporations influence government through lobbyists.

I'd say the lobbyists are the cancer, government is the host, and corporations are the doctors treating the symptoms rather than curing the disease; trying to suck as much money from the patient as possible.
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Old 04-14-2015, 02:22 PM
 
Location: TN/NC
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Neither is on the side of the common person and will railroad us at any opportunity.
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