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05-25-2009, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ray1945
You believe that an embryo/fetus is the equivalent of a fully formed, functioning human being and equate abortion with murder. I don't. You, and those who believe as you do, have the choice to never have an abortion. Accordingly, I, and those who believe as I do, have the choice to consider abortion as an alternative to an unwanted pregnancy.
I suggest you MYOB and I will do the same.
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Do you fail to see how insane this "just don't have an abortion yourself" argument is?
Pro-lifers who truly feel abortion as murder should not accept the "murders" occurring any more than you would accept a law making murder of a 2 year old or a 40 year old legal. How would you feel if such laws were passed? You wouldn't simply say "I won't kill, but I respect others' right to do so."
Pro-lifers have every right to work to change the laws; pro-choicers have every right to support the laws as they exist. |
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05-25-2009, 08:54 PM
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Do you fail to see how insane this "just don't have an abortion yourself" argument is?
Pro-lifers who truly feel abortion as murder should not accept the "murders" occurring any more than you would accept a law making murder of a 2 year old or a 40 year old legal. How would you feel if such laws were passed? You wouldn't simply say "I won't kill, but I respect others' right to do so."
Pro-lifers have every right to work to change the laws; pro-choicers have every right to support the laws as they exist.
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Sorry, but I don't think it is insane.
Pro-lifers base their position on a belief, not a fact. They believe abortion is murder because they believe an embryo/fetus is the same a fully developed, fully functioning human being. Their beliefs are not an acceptable basis for a law.
A 2 or 40 year old is a fully developed, fully functioning human being in fact - no doubt about it. Killing either one is, indeed, murder. |
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05-25-2009, 09:00 PM
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Sorry, but I don't think it is insane.
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Because you don't see it from the pro-lifers' view - consider that. |
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05-25-2009, 09:08 PM
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Because you don't see it from the pro-lifers' view - consider that.
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Perhaps it is the pro-lifer's point of view that is insane and they should see it from my point view - consider that. |
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05-26-2009, 07:34 AM
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This is not a Republican issue. Republicans use it to pander and divide, but it is a real issue. I am a huge Obama supporter, but damn I wish he was pro-life. I can't stand that the youngest people of this nation are not being protected.
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05-26-2009, 09:18 AM
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Perhaps it is the pro-lifer's point of view that is insane and they should see it from my point view - consider that.
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I see his point though. From a pro-choice person's view, pro-lifers are just taking away a right. In the eyes of a pro-lifer, pro-choicers are allowing murder. Just something to think about. |
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05-26-2009, 09:28 AM
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Ok so all you pro- lifers do you now or did you ever support this war in the middle east? Be honest? If you did, you just said it was ok to murder thousand of innocent lifes ( ones up and walking around). But abortition should be illegal , huh? Glad to know you can distinguish which "murders" are justifable!
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05-26-2009, 10:58 AM
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Ok so all you pro- lifers do you now or did you ever support this war in the middle east? Be honest? If you did, you just said it was ok to murder thousand of innocent lifes ( ones up and walking around). But abortition should be illegal , huh? Glad to know you can distinguish which "murders" are justifable!
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So does this mean all you pro deathers out there are against the war. You are against defending this country while you are pro death for 49 million Americans who have been denied their right to live.
You pro deathers are against the war but for killing our most innocent?
Glad you can distinguish which murders are justifiable |
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05-26-2009, 11:54 AM
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So does this mean all you pro deathers out there are against the war.
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Whoever coined the word "pro-life" was a genius. He/she saw the reality that they won't have a leg to stand on if they used "anti-choice" as their rhetoric. It was just easier to coin something that would garner easier prey, with a talking point to boot. This statement from you is the perfect example of that. |
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05-26-2009, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by trmihall01
Ok so all you pro- lifers do you now or did you ever support this war in the middle east? Be honest? If you did, you just said it was ok to murder thousand of innocent lifes ( ones up and walking around). But abortition should be illegal , huh? Glad to know you can distinguish which "murders" are justifable!
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Idk I'm a Pro-Life Democrat. You can thank me for supporting Obama.
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