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It could not have a say until it was 7or 8. An infant cant live or have a say without an adult. An infant cant feed itself without an adult. So when does it have a say.
That just an excuse to say its ok to kill it
Note the physically.
As in, sapping the nutrients of an adult.
After birthing, the child can be passed from parent to parent.
Before viability, the fetus cannot.
Basically, until the fetus can survive outside of the womb, I don't believe we should ever consider its rights over the mother's.
It could not have a say until it was 7or 8. An infant cant live or have a say without an adult. An infant cant feed itself without an adult. So when does it have a say.
That just an excuse to say its ok to kill it
So, you're equating being an incubator with raising an infant? Oh, let's just ignore the physical difference between the two. You know.. the part about a fetus being attached to the mother's body, while an infant is not physically attached to either parent.
What you oh-so-eagerly forget is that if a woman (or man) decides that he/she doesn't wish to care for an infant, custody can easily be transferred to somebody else. However, when the child is a fetus, there is no such thing as a true transfer of custody that doesn't require massive surgery (with still a minor chance of the operationg working).
Adoption is the cure for unwanted parenting. Abortion is the cure for unwanted pregnancy. Don't like it? Don't get an abortion. Now where's that Easy Button?
So, you're equating being an incubator with raising an infant? Oh, let's just ignore the physical difference between the two. You know.. the part about a fetus being attached to the mother's body, while an infant is not physically attached to either parent.
What you oh-so-eagerly forget is that if a woman (or man) decides that he/she doesn't wish to care for an infant, custody can easily be transferred to somebody else. However, when the child is a fetus, there is no such thing as a true transfer of custody that doesn't require massive surgery (with still a minor chance of the operationg working).
Adoption is the cure for unwanted parenting. Abortion is the cure for unwanted pregnancy. Don't like it? Don't get an abortion. Now where's that Easy Button?
The point stands . The op had made the point that a fetus does not have a say. Nor does an infant. Whether attached to the mother or not an infant has no say.
The key element is at what point do you define the unborn as a human life.
The point stands . The op had made the point that a fetus does not have a say. Nor does an infant. Whether attached to the mother or not an infant has no say.
The key element is at what point do you define the unborn as a human life.
I don't really see how that's the "key element". Since it's obvious a "human life" at the point of conception, as it has all the physical attributes of life from the beginning.
The "key element" is whether or not you put that life above the mother's.
So do you beleive in third term abortions?
But your point was a fetus has no say. Neither does an infant
I do believe in them when they're necessary
And my point still stands. Before the point of viability, the fetus should have no say. Afterwards, the resulting infant can be passed from parent to parent. And techically, it still doesn't have a say, as it's not mentally developed enough TO have a say. However, the law stands on that issue, and I personally agree with it.
However, I'd never agree with a law banning abortions before the point of viability.
I don't really see how that's the "key element". Since it's obvious a "human life" at the point of conception, as it has all the physical attributes of life from the beginning.
The "key element" is whether or not you put that life above the mother's.
And I don't.
So you believe life begins at conception. So then to deny its life is murder.
Abortion should be allowed to save the life of the mother.
You are placing different value on different lives to agree with abortion.
Why is th unborn life any more important than the mothers
So you believe life begins at conception. So then to deny its life is murder.
Abortion should be allowed to save the life of the mother.
You are placing different value on different lives to agree with abortion.
Why is th unborn life any more important than the mothers
And as I've said before, ending human life=/= murder.
ANd yes, I am placing different values on the life of the mother and the life of the fetus. Until it can live on its own, I see a fetus as nothing more than a parasite. At least, legally.
And my point still stands. Before the point of viability, the fetus should have no say. Afterwards, the resulting infant can be passed from parent to parent. And techically, it still doesn't have a say, as it's not mentally developed enough TO have a say. However, the law stands on that issue, and I personally agree with it.
However, I'd never agree with a law banning abortions before the point of viability.
But you just said life began at conception. Now you say life begins at viabilty.
If life begins at conception like you stated previously then to kill it with an abortion is murder.
But you just said life began at conception. Now you say life begins at viabilty.
If life begins at conception like you stated previously then to kill it with an abortion is murder.
No, I've consistently stated that life begins at conception.
I just believe that its rights begin at viability.
Again, for the one thousandth time, ending human life=/=murder.
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