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View Poll Results: Pro choice or pro life?
I am pro-life with children 79 18.12%
I am pro-life without children 69 15.83%
No opinion-don't care 18 4.13%
I am pro-choice with children 124 28.44%
I am pro-choice without children 146 33.49%
Voters: 436. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-05-2009, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Originally Posted by Who?Me?! View Post
Wait just a goldarn minute! I hate men?????
So you think women having the right to control their own bodies means that we hate men??? That is NOT logical. BUT using YOUR "LOGIC" then all men must hate women if they are anti-choice....thank you for agreeing.



Women are NOT trying to do anything to men....but men (and anti-choice women)ARE trying to control women.



"""""""""Abortion has nothing to do with a womans right to vote"""""


YES, it does...if you can follow along slowly:

""making it illegal CONTROLS WOMEN.....and their greatest fear is having women in control...even if it's only the control of their own bodies.

Why do you think so many man were opposed to women getting the vote? Same thing. (women in control)
The abortion debate is about denying life.
Your post was defiantly a post that tried blame men for pregnancy. It was defiantly a post that had the sounds of man hate.
Its not about a woman controlling her body, it about a womans right to kill another. At this point in time the woman has the right to kill , congratulations on obtaining the right to kill. 49 million times since roe versus wade has a woman chose to kill.

First as I have said there are many pro life woman, So your attack that it is men trying to control woman was pure man hate. You assume all pro lifers are men and your posts attack men not pro lifers.

I do not care what a woman does with her body as long as what she does do her body does not kill another human in premeditative manner

 
Old 06-05-2009, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Because the fetus was viable and could live outside the womb.
As many of Tillers fetuses were.
 
Old 06-05-2009, 08:26 AM
 
Location: memphis tn
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Originally Posted by wjtwet View Post
Your post makes you sound as if you truly hate men.
There are woman a who are against abortion so does you hate for men include them.

Abortion has nothing to do with a womans right to vote. Abortion is about the premeditate murder of the unborn.

You think the woman has a right to kill.
I disagree.
I don't hate men, I love men. I'm just saying, you are a man and you wouldn't want this done to you yet you have a very strong opinion of what should be forced on me. If all men were castrated after a sperm sample or two were taken for child bearing purposes, wouldn't that pretty much stop abortion? So why force a woman to forgo her rights when a man won't forgo his. Want to stop abortion, this is a stance i can get behind i mean after all what's good for the goose... Isn't that what sex was created for anyway to reproduce. So, who's first, how bout you?
 
Old 06-05-2009, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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I don't hate men, I love men. I'm just saying, you are a man and you wouldn't want this done to you yet you have a very strong opinion of what should be forced on me. If all men were castrated after a sperm sample or two were taken for child bearing purposes, wouldn't that pretty much stop abortion? So why force a woman to forgo her rights when a man won't forgo his. Want to stop abortion, this is a stance i can get behind i mean after all what's good for the goose... Isn't that what sex was created for anyway to reproduce. So, who's first, how bout you?
If I accused you of posting as a man hater I apoligize. I have not seen that in yoru stance. The post you quote I hope was to another OP

Up have a strong opinion of what you can do to the unborn. Your opinion denies life , mine does not.
 
Old 06-05-2009, 08:34 AM
 
Location: memphis tn
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Originally Posted by wjtwet View Post
The abortion debate is about denying life.
Your post was defiantly a post that tried blame men for pregnancy. It was defiantly a post that had the sounds of man hate.
Its not about a woman controlling her body, it about a womans right to kill another. At this point in time the woman has the right to kill , congratulations on obtaining the right to kill. 49 million times since roe versus wade has a woman chose to kill.

First as I have said there are many pro life woman, So your attack that it is men trying to control woman was pure man hate. You assume all pro lifers are men and your posts attack men not pro lifers.

I do not care what a woman does with her body as long as what she does do her body does not kill another human in premeditative manner
For you abortion may be about "denying" rights that don't exist anyway. But for me and many others, its about the government controlling our bodies. I think women have been enslaved by men for far too long. If all men were castrated, it would stop rape, child molestation, the porn industry, prostitution, strip clubs and abortion. On a much larger scale this would be a win , win situation for your cause, why can't you get behind it?
 
Old 06-05-2009, 08:34 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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As many of Tillers fetuses were.
Yes, and at that point, either endangering the life of the woman or suffering from severe defect.
 
Old 06-05-2009, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Originally Posted by trmihall01 View Post
For you abortion may be about "denying" rights that don't exist anyway. But for me and many others, its about the government controlling our bodies. I think women have been enslaved by men for far too long. If all men were castrated, it would stop rape, child molestation, the porn industry, prostitution, strip clubs and abortion. On a much larger scale this would be a win , win situation for your cause, why can't you get behind it?
If you castrate all men the world ends. Cant repopulate the world if all men are castrated.
On more rational scale, i believe the new mens birth control shot is important in the developement of society and birth control.
 
Old 06-05-2009, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Yes, and at that point, either endangering the life of the woman or suffering from severe defect.
You are incorrect in assuming all 60,000 of his abortions were fetuses with birth defects.
 
Old 06-05-2009, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Originally Posted by trmihall01 View Post
For you abortion may be about "denying" rights that don't exist anyway. But for me and many others, its about the government controlling our bodies. I think women have been enslaved by men for far too long. If all men were castrated, it would stop rape, child molestation, the porn industry, prostitution, strip clubs and abortion. On a much larger scale this would be a win , win situation for your cause, why can't you get behind it?
The right to live is notr a right?
You deny the unborn life on the basis its your right to do so.
 
Old 06-05-2009, 08:43 AM
 
Location: memphis tn
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Originally Posted by wjtwet View Post
The right to live is notr a right?
You deny the unborn life on the basis its your right to do so.
The supreme court says a fetus doesn't have a right and once again you are refusing to answer my question. Wouldn't castration solve 99% of the above mention problems? It's a win, win situation, no more abortion and alot less crime. Wouldn't you agree? Try answering all of an op not just the part you think you have an arguement for.
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