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An old man on dialysis is "a unique life" too; that doesn't give him the right to be hooked up to some random person so that he can use their kidneys, though.
If you can't sustain your own life without infringing on other people's right to bodily sovereignty, then you have no 'right to life".
When artificial incubators are invented, and fetuses can be incubated in them, then perhaps they will have a "right" to such care.
Just as sick people with worn-out organs have a right to mechanical life support, but not a right to use other people's organs, unless other people willingly donate them.
The unborn did not choose to be there the person that enjoyed the act of sex did know the consequence. That person gave up that right when they CHOOSE to have sex. Just as the person that commits a crime CHOOSES to give up their rights to be free.
I'm not a lawyer, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn once.
The person that see the no trespassing sign has the choice to trespass or not.
That person can read and understand the sign.
The unborn did not have a choice to be there.
So lets kill the most innocent because he did not know there was a no trespassing sign and he has no choice to be there. So kill him for that.
The unborn did not choose to be there the person that enjoyed the act of sex did know the consequence. That person gave up that right when they CHOOSE to have sex. Just as the person that commits a crime CHOOSES to give up their rights to be free.
The unborn did not choose to be there the person that enjoyed the act of sex did know the consequence. That person gave up that right when they CHOOSE to have sex. Just as the person that commits a crime CHOOSES to give up their rights to be free.
I knew you'd get there eventually.
Congratulations. You have officially sunk to the laughably sexist argument of, "Women who have sex choose to give up their human rights!"
You see, this sort of thing is why nobody take "prolifers" seriously. In case you were wondering.
You all are pretending that there are no ways to avoid pregnancy other than not having sex. There are many methods that make the risk an incredibly slight one if used correctly.
An older man has already been born. You think they have a right to live when there are artificial incubators. But while the need their mother to live its OK to kill them.
The unborn can not speak for themselves. One group believes it is OK to kill them. One group does not.
No, I, personally, do not "think they have a right to live in artificial incubators".
But I would not object to them being kept in artificial incubators, if others felt strongly about it and had some reasonable plan for funding such an endeavor and then raising and taking care of the end product.
I knew you'd get there eventually.
Congratulations. You have officially sunk to the laughably sexist argument of, "Women who have sex choose to give up their human rights!"
You see, this sort of thing is why nobody take "prolifers" seriously. In case you were wondering.
So... thanks for playing, please try again.
I like how some people try to get their point across by putting words in others mouths.
Someone who openly chooses to have sexual intercourse knows the risks involved, and one of those risks is pregnancy. Right?
Someone who kills another human being in cold blood knows that they could face imprisonment. Right?
The person who kills another has no loophole, why should the person who knew the risk of having sex have such a loophole?
I like how some people try to get their point across by putting words in others mouths.
Someone who openly chooses to have sexual intercourse knows the risks involved, and one of those risks is pregnancy. Right?
Someone who kills another human being in cold blood knows that they could face imprisonment. Right?
The person who kills another has no loophole, why should the person who knew the risk of having sex have such a loophole?
Answer these questions one by one.
So you are equating the consequence of being pregnant to that of being imprisoned, which is pretty close to the truth for a woman who does not want to be pregnant. Good job!
The person who kills another has no loophole, why should the person who knew the risk of having sex have such a loophole?
Answer these questions one by one.
Number one, sex isn't a crime.
Number two, even if it were, we live in a civilized nation, and no crime- not even murder- is punishable by loss of one's human rights.
Even prisoners are afforded humane treatment. Even when executed, everything possible is done to ensure that the treatment they recieve is humane, that they suffer no loss of human rights (the "right to life" is not in fact a human right. Everybody dies.)
The right to bodily sovereignty- which means the right to control over one's own body- is a fundamental human right. Regardless of the extent to which one is capable of exercising that right (a parapalegic cannot, for instance, control his legs. That is nobody's fault. He still has the right to, even if he's incapable of exercising that right. An infertile woman cannot bear children. That does not change the fact that she has the right to).
The right to decide whether and when one will gestate and bear children is a human right that only women can exercise. It doesn't mean men don't have this right, merely that they can't exercise it, since they are incapable of gestating and bearing children.
Because it's a human right that men have no need of, since there is no danger that anyone will ever attempt to force them to gestate an unwanted pregnancy as a "consequence" of having sex or for any other reason, men are often oblivious to the fact that it is a human right at all.
But it is.
The right to reproductive freedom is a fundamental human right.
There is no possibility, regardless of how loudly the prolife contingent whines, that it will ever be taken away from the citizens of this country again.
Number one, sex isn't a crime.
Number two, even if it were, we live in a civilized nation, and no crime- not even murder- is punishable by loss of one's human rights.
Even prisoners are afforded humane treatment. Even when executed, everything possible is done to ensure that the treatment they recieve is humane, that they suffer no loss of human rights (the "right to life" is not in fact a human right. Everybody dies.)
The right to bodily sovereignty- which means the right to control over one's own body- is a fundamental human right. Regardless of the extent to which one is capable of exercising that right (a parapalegic cannot, for instance, control his legs. That is nobody's fault. He still has the right to, even if he's incapable of exercising that right. An infertile woman cannot bear children. That does not change the fact that she has the right to).
The right to decide whether and when one will gestate and bear children is a human right that only women can exercise. It doesn't mean men don't have this right, merely that they can't exercise it, since they are incapable of gestating and bearing children.
Because it's a human right that men have no need of, since there is no danger that anyone will ever attempt to force them to gestate an unwanted pregnancy as a "consequence" of having sex or for any other reason, men are often oblivious to the fact that it is a human right at all.
But it is.
The right to reproductive freedom is a fundamental human right.
There is no possibility, regardless of how loudly the prolife contingent whines, that it will ever be taken away from the citizens of this country again.
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