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New Gallup poll shows the GOP losing ground big time. While I despise many parts of the current GOP, I think they have a lot offer American politics by way of genuine conservative ideology. The problem is that the current GOP is not conservative... and it's showing up in party identification.
No it's called having a platform popular with voters. Nobody desires your right wing fantasy economic policies....LOL
Whats the difference? Those fantasies never came true even with Republicans in power.
But the irresponsible Government will pay with a back lash. One way or another a Conservative economic revolution will arise from this hideous mess that is being made worse then it should have been.
Yes but what you fail to mention is that those red states gaining population are gaining Democratic voters not wing nuts....LOL
I don't quite agree with that logic, especially considering most growth in southern metropolises originate from within the states themselves. The trend mostly involved blacks moving from poor rural areas to the cities and starting families. Most people who actually moved to the red states to escape the high costs of living, taxes, etc in blue states are retirees, and suburbanites - two groups that vote largely Republican.
Don't believe me? Go flip through some of the threads on the city/state forums related to northerners/ moving to the Sunbelt.
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No that's just wishful thinking. Did falling GOP support help Ron Paul or the Libertarians last November???
The fact is despite 8 years of Bush and his exit approval rating around 20%, the Democrats still could not muster a landslide in the popular vote. Look at 1992.. Once again despite plenty of ammunition against H.W.Bush, the Democrats only won with 43% of the popular vote, far from a majority.
And yes, since November, Democrat and Republican party affiliation has dropped in favor of people calling themselves independent. That doesn't mean they vote independent, but are in fact swing voters.
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No it's called having a platform popular with voters. Nobody desires your right wing fantasy economic policies....LOL
I doubt if every voter saw a clear, defined readout of the respective platforms of each party they would never vote Democrat or Republican again. Money is the driving force behind politics and parties.. Just look at Ross Perot..
Whats the difference? Those fantasies never came true even with Republicans in power.
But the irresponsible Government will pay with a back lash. One way or another a Conservative economic revolution will arise from this hideous mess that is being made worse then it should have been.
Then we all all prosper!
haha yea right. Thanks to Bush and the neocons. "Conservative" economic policies has come to mean massive tax cuts and trillions in debt to rebuild Islamic countries. The republican party lost my support when they became the party of borrow and spend. I'll stick with the left wing democrat nutjobs.
haha yea right. Thanks to Bush and the neocons. "Conservative" economic policies has come to mean massive tax cuts and trillions in debt to rebuild Islamic countries. The republican party lost my support when they became the party of borrow and spend. I'll stick with the left wing democrat nutjobs.
do you not read? I already stated that under Republicans my conservative economy fantasies never came true.
Right now we are testing far left wing economic policies because we are scared and need our Government there to comfort us.
Well when Americans wake up and see our Government could give a *****'s ass about us the Conservative Revolution will occur.
First of all the GOP did this too themselves by aligning the party with fundementalist evangelicals & the Moral majority. Sorry but politics and religion shouldn't mix in such a way that you start moralizing to other segments of society. You're supposed to be the party of individual liberties right? You don't like anybody messing with your gun rights yet you want to control women's bodies by trying to end abortion (which is funny because Nixon, Ford,Reagan, Bush 1 & 2 couldn't do it either). You want to tell gays they are second class citizens and can't get married yet we have several states with that already.
Society is moving away from your preachy style and maybe if you go back to the smaller government / individual rights that your party used to be about you start winning elections again.
PS: I'm a registered Independant.
maybe if you go back to the smaller government / individual rights that your party used to be about you start winning elections again.
PS: I'm a registered Independant.
Well they would not get my vote because they would be all talk.
They have tried that before, talking about small government, less taxes and more liberties. That lead to incredible deficits, nationbuilding in the middle east and the Patriot act.
Republicans are con artists and it seems their "counterparts" learned well from them.
New Gallup poll shows the GOP losing ground big time. While I despise many parts of the current GOP, I think they have a lot offer American politics by way of genuine conservative ideology. The problem is that the current GOP is not conservative... and it's showing up in party identification.
The current GOP is not FISCALLY conservative...it's far too socially conservative. That's why it's losing people. Too many people don't see eye-to-eye with the antiquated and bigoted views of the Neo-con base and would prefer to see Republicans like Ron Paul, who actually believe in small government. The GOP has become the party of old white guys and idiotic soccer moms who are afraid of anyone with colored skin, who has taken a drug or who has been with someone of the same sex while ignoring the fact that many of the main proponents of this new ideology have been the worse culprits of this "behavior" that has been used to drum up their support.
The GOP base was built on a house of cards that all came tumbling down when people began to realize how foolish they had been. How can a party survive when it claims small government while pushing for the opposite? How can a party survive when it claims to be the one of morality, yet has dozens of people arrested for corruption, drugs and sexual escapades?
I'm a registered Republican, but there are few Republicans that I can support these days without feeling dirty...Ron Paul and Chuck Hagel are two of the only guys I can say that about. That's why the Libertarian party has seen increased interest and why the Democrats have won over a lot of Republicans.
If the GOP came out tomorrow and said "We are against the Drug War, the War against Cuba and we believe that the War on Terror is better served as a series of small, covert operations instead of a full-scale mobilization", they would immediately win back at least half of those who they've lost over the last 8 years.
No that's just wishful thinking. Did falling GOP support help the Libertarians last November???
No they got less than 1% of the vote. Ralph Nader alone obtained more votes than the Libertarians and Constitution Party combined!
That is a remarkable fact! The fact that Nader who was only lukewarm in his campaign actually rec'd more votes than Ron Paul. Libertarians are the only hope for the Republican party but fools that they are, the GOP reject anyone but Bible-belt bigots. It's no wonder that Republicans are "dead on arrival" in America & will remain as such for many many years.
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Libertarians are the only hope for the Republican party but fools that they are, the GOP reject anyone but Bible-belt bigots. It's no wonder that Republicans are "dead on arrival" in America & will remain as such for many many years. 
