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Old 08-01-2016, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Log "cabin" west of Bangor
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I think it is the usual fundamentalist evolutionists mumbo jumbo. That fossil was either fully man or fully ape, not part one and part the other.

BTW your link did not work.
The link is dead because this thread has been dead for more than seven years. Congratulations on resurrecting it to make a comment to someone who was dis-membered two years ago. Way to go.

"Either fully man or fully ape"...you don't understand much about evolution, do you?
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Old 08-01-2016, 04:51 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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A link between man and ape would be one of my cousins.
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Old 08-02-2016, 07:06 AM
 
Location: Log "cabin" west of Bangor
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A link between man and ape would be one of my cousins.
Yeah, I have some cousins down in Georgia like that...goes to show that the biblical prohibitions against 'laying with' close relations was a practical observation of the results.
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Old 08-02-2016, 07:09 AM
 
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I think it is the usual fundamentalist evolutionists mumbo jumbo. That fossil was either fully man or fully ape, not part one and part the other.

BTW your link did not work.
You brought a 7 year old thread back to life just to inform us that you're scientifically illiterate?
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Old 08-02-2016, 07:31 AM
 
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Every time we try and disassociate ourselves as humans from the rest of the animal kingdom we always fail. One thing that always seems to be a common theme, we all descended from a common ancestor. The universe starts as a small spec and explodes. Stars explode and create the heavy elements for future solar systems, planets and humans to exist. Science shows us through mitochondrial DNA that all humans came from a women in Africa and this woman in Africa descended from this lemur monkey.

I find this the stuff of beauty, harmony, diversity and oneness all wrapped up and maybe the stuff of god. Why can't we celebrate it rather than grasp onto irrational fears and hatred.
The most preposterous and nonsensical narrative ever accepted by the human mind. You might just as well believe in fairy dust. There is nothing scientific about the big bang theory, or the common ancestor theme promoted by Darwin. The common ancestor theme requires "speciation" to have occurred incalculable times, over the millions of years it has allegedly taken to produce every living thing that exists and has ever existed, from plants to mammals, yet the search for just one provable example of one species transitioning into another has never been found. Lots of fakes have been produced though.

The big bang is equally absurd, and for too many reasons to begin listing.
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Old 08-02-2016, 07:44 AM
 
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The most preposterous and nonsensical narrative ever accepted by the human mind.
Are you sure about that?

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The common ancestor theme requires "speciation" to have occurred incalculable times, over the millions of years it has allegedly taken to produce every living thing that exists and has ever existed, from plants to mammals, yet the search for just one provable example of one species transitioning into another has never been found. Lots of fakes have been produced though.
If you know what the theory of evolution actually is (just saying, it couldn't be more obvious that you don't), you'd know that EVERY species is a transitional species. You're making the assumption that the species that currently exist are an intentional end result, therefore there must be some weird halfway from a primitive species to the current ones. But that's not how it works. Every species is constantly changing and evolving the the build up of small change results in very large changes overtime.

So, know, some weird mutant hybrid from a man to an 'ape' (foolishly assuming man is something other than an ape) has not been found because the theory of evolution doesn't suggest it would have to exist. It technically could, but if it doesn't, that's not too surprising either.

Also, decades of research on DNA has also helped solidify the theory of evolution. But you know, you can't see it so it must not exist...

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The big bang is equally absurd, and for too many reasons to begin listing.
Too many to list or none that you know enough about?

Everything in the universe is moving away from each other. For this reason, it would be impossible for humans to every travel to another galaxy. The speed required to do this is, as far as we can tell, completely impossible. But that's off topic. The idea that backs the big bang is based on this movement. Why is everything getting farther away. Based on our understanding of physics, we know that an object in motion stays in motion until a force acts upon to stop it. Right?

The big bang theory is fully consistent with that and offers the best explanation for this movement. The universe begins at a singularity and then rapidly expands (it's often referred to as an explosion, but this isn't technically accurate). The force that causes entire galaxies to be getting farther away would be that same force that started the initial movement.

Bare in mind, there's still much to learn about the big bang. And technically, it could be wrong, but we'd need contradicting evidence to suggest that it is, and since you posted none, I can assume it doesn't exist. And since the scientific community takes the big bang seriously, that only further my reasons to believe the big bang is the best working explanation for the universes existence that we have.
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Old 08-02-2016, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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I think it is the usual fundamentalist evolutionists mumbo jumbo. That fossil was either fully man or fully ape, not part one and part the other.
Whoever taught you about evolution should refund your money. Because whoever it was does not know what they are talking about.


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BTW your link did not work.
Welcome to the internet. Which can and does change literally at the speed of light. Seven years is a LOOOOOONG time.
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Old 08-02-2016, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Log "cabin" west of Bangor
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The most preposterous and nonsensical narrative ever accepted by the human mind. You might just as well believe in fairy dust. There is nothing scientific about...the common ancestor theme promoted by Darwin. The common ancestor theme requires "speciation" to have occurred incalculable times, over the millions of years it has allegedly taken to produce every living thing that exists and has ever existed, from plants to mammals, yet the search for just one provable example of one species transitioning into another has never been found.
You seem to be saying that you think that there should be a clear example of one thing suddenly becoming this other thing.

That isn't the way it works.

Changes in an organism may be induced by internal or external forces, genetic mutations, or crossbreeding. Changes are typically gradual, some may confer an advantage, some may be a disadvantage, and some may be neutral.

Changes that confer an advantage result in a species becoming more successful, perhaps at the expense of the less successful predecessor. The predecessor does not immediately die off, nor does it need to in order for the successor to thrive.

Plant and animal breeders cause intentional mutations through selective breeding, selecting the traits they desire and getting rid of the ones they don't want. Of course, since these mutations are intentional and guided, they happen at a much faster rate than they would if it was left to nature to do...in which case they might not happen at all.

Take a Chihuahua and a Great Dane for instance- they are both dogs, but they are very different from each other. They have the same ancestor, way back up the line, but they have both changed greatly from that ancestor and each other.

Can you point to one specific skeleton and say "This is where the Great Dane became a Chihuahua"?

No, you can't, no one can. It simply isn't possible, because that is not how it works.

For one to insist that it does or should work that way shows a monumental ignorance of the subject.

And just as you will never find an example of where a Great Dane transitioned into a Chihuahua, you will never find an example where you can say that it is where apes became men. It is not expected, and it is laughable for anyone to insist otherwise.
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