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Old 05-21-2009, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Uh, hello, they're dirty backwards animals that are hungry for blood. You didn't get the memo??
I'm just getting a strange visual from the neo-con addicted to "24"
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Old 05-21-2009, 11:58 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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The CIA said waterboarding Khalid Sheik Mohammed prevented a planned 2002 terrorist attack on LA.

What's interesting is that KSM was captured in 2003.
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Old 05-21-2009, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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...most of us are still waiting to hear about this planned attack that is referenced, that is if it in fact not "24"
If you're that interested, check Google.com. It's a website that helps you find information on the Internet - a very handy tool!

Seriously - it's kind of old news. You'd have to have been under a rock for the last six months to not have heard about it.
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Old 05-21-2009, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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The CIA said waterboarding Khalid Sheik Mohammed prevented a planned 2002 terrorist attack on LA.

What's interesting is that KSM was captured in 2003.
Another win for the agency's credibility.

I have several former research colleagues in both the CIA and NSA and get the chance to "hear things" about regular goofs like this. Par for the course.
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Old 05-21-2009, 12:05 PM
 
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The Central Intelligence Agency told CNSNews.com today that it stands by the assertion made in a May 30, 2005 Justice Department memo that the use of “enhanced techniques” of interrogation on al Qaeda leader Khalid Sheik Mohammed (KSM) -- including the use of waterboarding -- caused KSM to reveal information that allowed the U.S. government to thwart a planned attack on Los Angeles.
Before he was waterboarded, when KSM was asked about planned attacks on the United States, he ominously told his CIA interrogators, “Soon, you will know.”

KSM was a little less cocky after the waterboarding.
According to the previously classified May 30, 2005 Justice Department memo that was released by President Barack Obama last week, the thwarted attack -- which KSM called the “Second Wave”-- planned “ ‘to use East Asian operatives to crash a hijacked airliner into’ a building in Los Angeles...”
“In particular, the CIA believes that it would have been unable to obtain critical information from numerous detainees, including KSM and Abu Zubaydah, without these enhanced techniques,” says the Justice Department memo. “Both KSM and Zubaydah had ‘expressed their belief that the general US population was ‘weak,’ lacked resilience, and would be unable to ‘do what was necessary’ to prevent the terrorists from succeeding in their goals.’"

http://obama.wsj.com/article/0bPr7lReiW6QV?q=Al-Qaeda

Take your pick. It's been reported everywhere. But of course you "weak" individuals "lacking resilience" will try to find a way to discredit this information.
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Old 05-21-2009, 12:10 PM
 
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If you're that interested, check Google.com. It's a website that helps you find information on the Internet - a very handy tool!

Seriously - it's kind of old news. You'd have to have been under a rock for the last six months to not have heard about it.
Nope, sorry, the OP needs to clarify what attack was prevented by torture.

I can't look that up. The OP must provide that information.

You can't call it old news because the attack referenced was not defined.

Once the OP addresses this, you'll see.
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Old 05-21-2009, 12:10 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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The Central Intelligence Agency told CNSNews.com today that it stands by the assertion made in a May 30, 2005 Justice Department memo that the use of “enhanced techniques” of interrogation on al Qaeda leader Khalid Sheik Mohammed (KSM) -- including the use of waterboarding -- caused KSM to reveal information that allowed the U.S. government to thwart a planned attack on Los Angeles.
Before he was waterboarded, when KSM was asked about planned attacks on the United States, he ominously told his CIA interrogators, “Soon, you will know.”

KSM was a little less cocky after the waterboarding.
According to the previously classified May 30, 2005 Justice Department memo that was released by President Barack Obama last week, the thwarted attack -- which KSM called the “Second Wave”-- planned “ ‘to use East Asian operatives to crash a hijacked airliner into’ a building in Los Angeles...”
“In particular, the CIA believes that it would have been unable to obtain critical information from numerous detainees, including KSM and Abu Zubaydah, without these enhanced techniques,” says the Justice Department memo. “Both KSM and Zubaydah had ‘expressed their belief that the general US population was ‘weak,’ lacked resilience, and would be unable to ‘do what was necessary’ to prevent the terrorists from succeeding in their goals.’"

CIA Confirms Waterboarding Thwarted Attack on Los Angeles
Now explain to me how someone captured in 2003 gave information that prevented an attack that was thwarted in 2002.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...500402_pf.html
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Old 05-21-2009, 12:12 PM
 
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I think the OP is referring the the fictional TV show 24.



LOL... so ridiculous... and who says so? If it's the CIA, I wonder what ulterior motive they may have for leaking such a story...
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Old 05-21-2009, 12:18 PM
 
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Now explain to me how someone captured in 2003 gave information that prevented an attack that was thwarted in 2002.

Bush Details 2002 Plot to Attack L.A. Tower - washingtonpost.com
Soon you will know...
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Old 05-21-2009, 12:21 PM
 
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The Central Intelligence Agency told CNSNews.com today that it stands by the assertion made in a May 30, 2005 Justice Department memo that the use of “enhanced techniques” of interrogation on al Qaeda leader Khalid Sheik Mohammed (KSM) -- including the use of waterboarding -- caused KSM to reveal information that allowed the U.S. government to thwart a planned attack on Los Angeles.
Before he was waterboarded, when KSM was asked about planned attacks on the United States, he ominously told his CIA interrogators, “Soon, you will know.”

KSM was a little less cocky after the waterboarding.
According to the previously classified May 30, 2005 Justice Department memo that was released by President Barack Obama last week, the thwarted attack -- which KSM called the “Second Wave”-- planned “ ‘to use East Asian operatives to crash a hijacked airliner into’ a building in Los Angeles...”
“In particular, the CIA believes that it would have been unable to obtain critical information from numerous detainees, including KSM and Abu Zubaydah, without these enhanced techniques,” says the Justice Department memo. “Both KSM and Zubaydah had ‘expressed their belief that the general US population was ‘weak,’ lacked resilience, and would be unable to ‘do what was necessary’ to prevent the terrorists from succeeding in their goals.’"

CIA Confirms Waterboarding Thwarted Attack on Los Angeles

Take your pick. It's been reported everywhere. But of course you "weak" individuals "lacking resilience" will try to find a way to discredit this information.
Sorry, but President Bush said the attack was thwarted by international cooperation with a Southeast Asian country. In 2002. KSM wasn't captured until 2003. Was President Bush lying? Or is the CIA simply trying to defend their actions? It's one or the other.
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