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Excellent point. Why not have mandatory vasectomies when a young male is
13 or 14, and their sperm saved? If a couple has a safe home environment and can support children, then IVF could be done. Just imagine all of the testosterone-driven violence that could be avoided, and the vast majority of
children would be planned-for and wanted. Just sayin'.
Then the depo won't be like using birth control and so wouldn't be against the religion.
I am quite sure that the Vatican wouldn't see it the way that you do.
I do think there are some people who abuse the system.
But, once again, my beliefs do not include the federal government having that kind of power over anyone. Although our society would be much better off if less children were born to those who can't care properly for them...it isn't a sacrifice I'd want my country to make.
My concern would be that it wouldn't stop with the "shot".
BIG DEAL! I have been a Nurse Practitioner for several years specializing in Emergency Medicine. I was an RN for 11 years before that-all in Critcal Care areas and in the ER. I was in education before switching careers. I'm not going to exchange 'I saved more lives than you' because I would win.
My recommendation that you get out of nursing is based on your judgemental statements. I have had the misfortune to care for people who were triaged by judgemental nurses. The care they give a 'welfare mother' is usually sub-par to the care they give someone they think is more deserving of health care. They are usually rude and short with those patients and the nursing assessments are usually inadequate because they assume the patient is lying and undeserving of their care. I document their actions and report them. If their behavior does not change for the better, I refuse to have them work with me. When a patient walks through those ER doors, they are equal. It's not for you to decide who is more deserving of your care. I have had my quota of drug seekers and the unisured are not in the majority. I have mothers bringing in their children with 'fevers' from all socio-economic stations in life. FYI, a fever can be an indicator of a serious illness.
If you have a problem with 'welfare' patients, you need to get out of nursing. The cost of insurance has resulted in many people, not just those on welfare, not being able to afford preventative health care with the end result being the ER is where they go for primary care. The ER should not be used as a primary care clinic but until health insurance is made more affordable for all that's where we're at.
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As a former nurse, I applaud your post. I also concur with your observations. So good that it bore repeating!
Like I said before, I put a smile on my face and do my job! I have been given many awards for my service and the care I give my pts, it might even behove you to know that I hold free clinics. I also am a ACNP in the ER, and you can't say you haven't seen the same. Attacking my personal character isn't what we are here for, it's to discuss a social issue that effects all of us. So let's try sticking to the OP.
Like I said before, I put a smile on my face and do my job! I have been given many awards for my service and the care I give my pts, it might even behove you to know that I hold free clinics. I also am a ACNP in the ER, and you can't say you haven't seen the same. Attacking my personal character isn't what we are here for, it's to discuss a social issue that effects all of us. So let's try sticking to the OP.
Why not...you were attacking the character of your patients.
Why not...you were attacking the character of your patients.
No I'm simply pointing out my experience! This is a simple obersvation. I just think that alot of times we chose our situation in life ( not all do). I simply don't think that the government( or tax payers) should continue to pay for these people. In any other country in the world if you dont work, you dont eat! I understand being poor, but my view was that these poor people seem to have a lot of luxuries and if they are getting public assistance, you and I are paying for them!
No I'm simply pointing out my experience! This is a simple obersvation. I just think that alot of times we chose our situation in life ( not all do). I simply don't think that the government( or tax payers) should continue to pay for these people. In any other country in the world if you dont work, you dont eat! I understand being poor, but my view was that these poor people seem to have a lot of luxuries and if they are getting public assistance, you and I are paying for them!
That isn't the truth, sorry. Welfare exists in other countries also.
What do you propose be done with "these people"?
I'd rather my tax dollars went so that people in my own country could eat rather than to some illegal war in the Middle East, by the way.
That isn't the truth, sorry. Welfare exists in other countries also.
What do you propose be done with "these people"?
I'd rather my tax dollars went so that people in my own country could eat rather than to some illegal war in the Middle East, by the way.
Who wouldn't. I'd rather the money be spent on education, healthcare reform, shelters, our disabled veterns and the enviroment. I don't propose we do anything with "these people". I just propose that everyone on public assistance stop having children for us to support. There has to be an answer and we are still missing the fundemental point that the welfare system wasn't set up for this indefinate support of people. It was ment as a short term helping hand, but as with everything else let the government get a hand in it and look at the results!
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