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They say that we have an official unemployment rate of about 9%. I strongly believe that about half of that figure are unemployable. They lack the smarts, the tact, the people skills, and the patience to work a full time regular job. These people have really nothing to offer the American workplace but our society tells us that every adult should work.
As unemployment continues to rise and government spending on social welfare continues to fall, these unemployables will grow in number. Many of you will say just leave them alone like they will turn into a punkin or dust if we do. If they are not able to take care of themselves someone else will have to or they will start to commit crimes, live on the street, move into Tent Cities, or just cause trouble.
Many of the unemployables may have done relatively well for themselves in the day when everyone worked in a factory or in agriculture and life was far less complex. Or even in theboom times during the late 1990s when there was a labor shortage, but today workers have to be more efficent and more skilled.
What are we going to do about the unemployables as the economy continues to fail and people need more life skills to function in our complex society?
THe Unemployment Rate is a big deal in the public psyche, and because of this it has been fudged to only reflect 50% of what (1929-80) was defined as "unemployed".
This change, so similiar to the "National Redoubt" strategy used by a desperate German High Command in the dying days of WWII, was instituted under Jimmy Carter, and first implemented under Reagan in the 1982 recession.
The old rate, now called the the "Misery index", and largely ignored by the corporate press, now stands around 18-19%, which is why this is truly a depression- not a recession.
If we accept the OP's argument, that would mean some 9-10% of workers are now 'unemployable".
This has NEVER been seen in our history, and therefore is utter rubbish.
What are we going to do about the unemployables as the economy continues to fail and people need more life skills to function in our complex society?
You are correct. There are approximately 5% of the population (about 15 million people) with IQs under 75. For people with IQs between 75 and 90, life is a difficult uphill battle. People with IQs of less than 75 are at an extremely high risk for negative life ourcomes including unemployment. You are also correct that this will get worse as society becomes more complex.
As the economy gets worse and unemployment goes up employers can be more selective but that is not even what I'm talking about. As another poster pointed out, these folks are not included in the umemployment figures. The real problem is that the constant instruction and supervision necessary to employ people with IQs under 75 costs employers more than what these folks are able to prduce. Its just not financially feasable to employ people with very low IQs which is what makes them unemployable.
These folks are not able to produce even what they need to survive. Many of us are able to produce at least what we need to survive. Our incomes are adequate but we pay no taxes. Some of us are able to produce more than what we need to survive and in some cases much more. We pay taxes and in some cases very high taxes.
The people who cannot produce even what they need to survive must be 'carried' by the people who are able to produce more than what they need. From each accroding to their ability; to each according to their need. This bit of socialism is necessary in a civilized society. Otherwise the unproductive would perish.
The big problem is how to determine who is not able to produce from those who will not produce.
THe Unemployment Rate is a big deal in the public psyche, and because of this it has been fudged to only reflect 50% of what (1929-80) was defined as "unemployed".
Shadowstats.com still calculates with the old formula and estimates near 20%.
U6 which is official is near 16%.
Don't people wonder why we are practically frozen around 8% and yet lose 500K jobs per month and it never seems to move ?
This last report had 100K extra jobs added via the birth/death rate. Was about 100K and jumped to 200K with no explanation. In this declining economy the government estimates an additional 200K jobs got created ?
The people who cannot produce even what they need to survive must be 'carried' by the people who are able to produce more than what they need. From each accroding to their ability; to each according to their need. This bit of socialism is necessary in a civilized society. Otherwise the unproductive would perish.
The big problem is how to determine who is not able to produce from those who will not produce.
- Reel
We have to make sure that they cannot REproduce. It's true that people of very low IQ will end up on welfare handouts but we need to make sure welfare handouts are tied with some kind of sterilization.
That's fair enough -- limit welfare programs, food stamps, and so on to a short period, 3 months "maternity leave" or something along those lines which gives people a chance to get working or in order to continue on, sterilization so that at least the generational welfare problem ends.
Shadowstats.com still calculates with the old formula and estimates near 20%.
U6 which is official is near 16%.
Don't people wonder why we are practically frozen around 8% and yet lose 500K jobs per month and it never seems to move ?
This last report had 100K extra jobs added via the birth/death rate. Was about 100K and jumped to 200K with no explanation. In this declining economy the government estimates an additional 200K jobs got created ?
100% agreement.
I believe that one must look beyond the numbers to question as to why the figures were changed. This was the late 70's under Carter, when the change was proposed; under Reagan was its first implementation.
What was the purpose; the real vs the cover story (our economy was shifting to a service sector dominated one)
Who benefits from this understatement?
Why, some 30 years later, is our economy in still in readjustment?
If the situation continues to deteriorate think about what happened in Nazi Germany.
That's what is going to happen.
Some severe far right (or far left) political leader will rise up and use mind control to persuade them that they have been misled by the government and then all anarchy will ensue.
Or maybe some severe far left leader and far left Congress? Hasn't that already happened?
Or maybe some severe far left leader and far left Congress? Hasn't that already happened?
It's starting neil0311. Slowly though with only a bit of verbal outrage and a little protesting here and there that is debunked.
If you take a little bit away at a time it's not noticeable until it's too late to act on it.
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