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There is a HUGE difference in saying to a 5th grader "Hey, there are different types of people in this world and not everyone will be like you so please learn to respect everyones right to exist how they want to" and
"Hey 5th grader! There are men in this world who wanna do each other in the butt and they like to teabag and lick each other's pee-pee's and here is a LIVEEEE demo! YAY!"
Get real.
You want to fix the tags on the post you linked? You have momonkey's words attributed to me and that really upsets me.
I think this is absolutely true too. Many gays are affluent, many are not.
Most of my Gay friends are affluent. Event promoters, web developers, attorneys, doctors, banking investors, and one of my friends is a best-selling author with several titles and a couple of movies to her credit.
These friends have ALL had to put themselves through school and persevere in face of extreme abject poverty because they wanted to be better than where they came from. They wanted to make a difference.
There is a huge class gap for Gays who are not affluent. Some gay teens are homeless while Transgendered people do not have access to resources for hormones while Gays with HIV or AIDS cannot receive proper medical treatment.
It is a sick, sad world we live in when people can't be judged on the good life they lead, the work they do for social justice, or their kindness because other people are too worried about what kind of sex they are having.
Agreed, that isn't the problem. The force feeding of gay activism is at issue here.
Pick another group that is more real to life. Like nerds, obeseity (much bigger populus). Not some 3 percent of the population which is nearly zero in grade school.
In all my years i've yet to see an epidemic of gay grammar school kids being abused, unless its by an adult.
It is not just about gay kids. There are the straight kids who can't handle being called gay (and by can't handle this includes killing themselves). There are the straight kids of gay adults who must endure the mistreatment by other kids and adults. This curriculum came about at the request of the teachers who were seeing the abuse in their class rooms. This is lesson 9. There are 8 other lessons dealing with other types of bullying. It was only when LGTB was included in the group that you can't abuse that anyone objected.
This curriculum came about at the request of the teachers who were seeing the abuse in their class rooms. This is lesson 9. There are 8 other lessons dealing with other types of bullying. It was only when LGTB was included in the group that you can't abuse that anyone objected.
That's incredible. Thanks for posting that bit of information. I doubt that most of the objectors would say they think bullying gays is okay, but it's still amazing to me that they're so afraid of the word "gay" being uttered in a classroom, or that somehow saying the word "gay" amounts to teaching kids about homosexual sex.
This curriculum has been watered down quite a bit. Despite what the media wants you to believe gay and homosexual is not even mentioned until the upper grades. Its just sexier to go with a story that will get everyone excited.
If you want a good answer to the question about whether or not kids should be taught to accept gays, ask the parents of gay children. Whether their kids are fully grown or still in school, I would bet that the vast majority of them would say kids should be taught that teasing and bullying gays is wrong.
Quote:Originally Posted by afoigrokerkok So you're comparing gays to pedophiles, murderers, thieves, those who are mentally insane, those who have sex with human corpses, etc.?
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Originally Posted by Nomander
If we are talking about chemical or genetic issues, then what delineates one abnormality from the other? What establishes one as acceptable and another not? Social acceptance? Moral opinion? Who decides? Who makes the call as to which is and which isn't?
I think that's a pretty simple question to answer.
Two gay adults in a consensual relationship are very different from any of the other examples where one party is coerced or harmed by the actions of another. Mutual consent makes it acceptable.
As far as the moral aspect, you would first have to get society to agree on a common moral code before it could be applied equally, and that ain't gonna happen as long as you and I are still on the green side of the grass.
Bottom line: Whatever two people choose to do consensually in the privacy of their own home is nobody's business but theirs. If you weren't invited to join them, you need go take a long walk or water the lawn or do something constructive instead of worrying about them.
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