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I never said anyone was guaranteed to do anything. I posed a hypothetical. I asked a question, which you still have not answered. I am glad to hear that you would choose the U.S. first. It should not be a question for a U.S. citizen, but it is a very good question for a person with Dual citizenship - how do you choose? Transparent agenda? Oh yes I forgot, there is a anti-semite behind every corner. You can always fall back on that. You can't criticise Israel without being an anti-semite, and you can't criticise someone who blindly supports Israel's policies without being an anit-semite. Pretty effective way to kill any dissent. Won't work here.
Who said you were anti-semetic? I said you had a transparent agenda. I guess you didn't understand my response. If I had D.C and lived here,it would be a tough choice but would still pick the U.S. No matter what lives would be lost and choosing who is more important is never a decision that someone wants to make but especially people in political posts have to understand, that if you work for the U.S government then your allegiance has to be here first.
That's why IMHO we try so hard to stop anyone else to get the damn things. We didn't stop Israel from getting them and the delivery systems. So we have to do whatever we can to keep them from using them.
IF N.K. had some real dependable long range missiles we'd be kissing the butts till their nose bled! just like we do the Chicoms. The other issue with the Jews is that they already know what extermination is like. I don't think they would hesitate a second before nuking someone if it looked like it was going to happen again. (as threatened by large part of the Arab world) As crazy as that goofy haired guy running the show in N.K. might be, the Red Chinese hold his leash and they do want anybody to hurt the big piggy bank called the USA... Not tilll they've sucked us dry at least!!!
Well this is a point that was recently made in the American Conservative by John Mearsheimer, which I shall provide a link and quote from.
What we can do in the case of Israel however is offer them a choice, a choice that we enforce with every other nation on the planet. Sign the Non Proliferation Treaty and allow inspectors into the Dimona and other nuke sites to be inspected and monitored. If Israel does not wish to do this, then remove all foreign aid and assistance, period. In fact, this is what the law states we must do, and a law that Obama is not likely to enforce as no President has since the Symington Amendment was enacted in 1976.
An insightful piece on merits of a two state solution over a single state solution and the possible outcomes of both.
The main reason no president has been able to stop Israel from colonizing the Occupied Territories is the Israel lobby. It is an especially powerful interest group that has pushed the American government to establish a “special relationship” with Israel, which is, as Yitzhak Rabin once said, “beyond compare in modern history.”
Well this is a point that was recently made in the American Conservative by John Mearsheimer, which I shall provide a link and quote from.
What we can do in the case of Israel however is offer them a choice, a choice that we enforce with every other nation on the planet. Sign the Non Proliferation Treaty and allow inspectors into the Dimona and other nuke sites to be inspected and monitored. If Israel does not wish to do this, then remove all foreign aid and assistance, period. In fact, this is what the law states we must do, and a law that Obama is not likely to enforce as no President has since the Symington Amendment was enacted in 1976.
An insightful piece on merits of a two state solution over a single state solution and the possible outcomes of both.
Interesting! Thanks for the link.
Perhaps I'm to apathetic to believe in major change but I believe the symbiotic\parasitic relationship between the US and Israel will continue untill it draws us into another larger confilct.... Between the political and historical causes I just don't see it changing.
Interesting! Thanks for the link.
Perhaps I'm to apathetic to believe in major change but I believe the symbiotic\parasitic relationship between the US and Israel will continue untill it draws us into another larger confilct.... Between the political and historical causes I just don't see it changing.
Well I'm not holding my breath either as there hasn't been any real substantive progress since Rabin, Arafat and Carter worked on this issue. Too bad Rabin was assassinated and Israel has bounced between Likud and Labor ever since. (and the new addition of Kadima)
However at this moment we have two very confident (some might even say, overly confident) leaders in Netanyahu and Obama and there is a good chance that one or both will say something inflammatory that eventually alters our current arrangement. So again, while I'm not holding my breath, there is some reason to believe that things can change when such volatile personalities are involved.
"In the 10 days since Netanyahu and President Barack Obama held a meeting at the White House, the Obama administration has made clear in public and private meetings with Israeli officials that it intends to hold a firm line on Obama's call to stop Israeli settlements. According to many observers in Washington and Israel, the Israeli prime minister, looking for loopholes and hidden agreements that have often existed in the past with Washington, has been flummoxed by an unusually united line that has come not just from Obama White House and the secretary of state, but also from pro-Israel congressmen and women who have come through Israel for meetings with him over Memorial Day recess. To Netanyahu's dismay, Obama doesn't appear to have a hidden policy. It is what he said it was."
"In the 10 days since Netanyahu and President Barack Obama held a meeting at the White House, the Obama administration has made clear in public and private meetings with Israeli officials that it intends to hold a firm line on Obama's call to stop Israeli settlements. According to many observers in Washington and Israel, the Israeli prime minister, looking for loopholes and hidden agreements that have often existed in the past with Washington, has been flummoxed by an unusually united line that has come not just from Obama White House and the secretary of state, but also from pro-Israel congressmen and women who have come through Israel for meetings with him over Memorial Day recess. To Netanyahu's dismay, Obama doesn't appear to have a hidden policy. It is what he said it was."
Well this is great news, not just because Obama is holding firm but also because pro-Israeli members of Congress also seem to be on board. I would be curious to see Netanyahu's chances for reelection if this administration keeps the pressure on them.
Can someone explain to me, in few points, how Israel is worth the 10's of billions of dollars it gets from the USA every year? Isn't Israel making its own money by selling high tech military equipment to China?
How is it worth it to give Israel 10's of billion$ while US maintain so many military bases in the Middle east?
Can someone explain to me, in few points, how Israel is worth the 10's of billions of dollars it gets from the USA every year? Isn't Israel making its own money by selling high tech military equipment to China?
How is it worth it to give Israel 10's of billion$ while US maintain so many military bases in the Middle east?
The Israeli agenda is kinda hard to figure out- like the 'dancing Jews' on 9-11 - there's a lot going on in the backgroud that we just don't know about.
the israeli agenda is kinda hard to figure out- like the 'dancing jews' on 9-11 - there's a lot going on in the backgroud that we just don't know about.
I don't think most people realize the amount of control Jewish lobbyists have over our politicians.
Wow, I'll bet you have a copy of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion under your bed . . .
The Joos! The Joos! They control everything!
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