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This thread fails completely on several levels
to wit:
1. Mentioning a Michael Moore movie.
2.Mentioning France
3. Mentioning Canada
4.Mentioning Obama
In my opinion that qualifies this for the worst post ever. Folks if you can't afford your Health care than find a better job. This is America and it was designed with the principles of freedom and liberty and the pursuit of happiness. No one owes you health care and this is not a nation of entitlements.
ummm I can afford my health insurance. do not assume that I cannot just because of a post. i just think that US has become all about money and forgot to take care of it's people. ALSO maybe your mother, brother, niece, daughter, etc. sometime down the line might not afford it. College kids etc.
ummm I can afford my health insurance. do not assume that I cannot just because of a post. i just think that US has become all about money and forgot to take care of it's people. ALSO maybe your mother, brother, niece, daughter, etc. sometime down the line might not afford it. College kids etc.
Perhaps you may be happier in Cuba. America is about capitalism , democracy, and independence to succeed. It isn't about entitlements to the people. Your in the wrong country.
Hey I don't work but my fiance supports his family. I go to school right now so that when I am done I can better myself and make sure I have a job with benefits but it doesn't matter anyway because I would be covered under my hubby's insurance. But when everything else is going up in price including the right to see a DR. I just wonder if we would be better of in a universal health care system.
I have a brother who needs surgery on his leg but he cant have health insurance because he is in college and doesn't qualify to be on his mothers, he works already to support himself and his schooling and can't afford the surgery. What happends when he dies or becomes disabled at 23 because he can't get a surgery he needs? I think about these ppl... the ppl who try to do good and end up getting the sh end of the stick because everyone is so worried about themselves. I don't like freeloading ppl that are on welfare but we still pay for it. And the surgery is for his leg he tore all the cartilage out of his knee. He can't walk right and can't sit a certain way. Imagine being 23 and not being able to walk normal, or run. etc.
You talk all this crap now about it but if it would ever happen to you or a family member then you would def be talking a diff talk.
the biggest COST is the FACT that we USE insurance anyway
INSURANCE is just that ASURANCE against something drastic
everyone, yes EVERYONE has health care....just open up the yellow pages and look up a doctor, and go
just remember the doctor is providing a SERVICE, so you should pay for that service as it is rendered
insurance should be for the big things, not a simple cold, or hang nail
some examples could be............
do you call your homeowners insurance to ask them to pay for you changing the color of your dining room?.....or do you call them for something big like a tree fall on your roof????
do you call your car insurace company because you need tires.....or do you call them because there was a devistating accident
people FAIL TO REALIZE that insurance is not health care...a doctor is
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[SIZE=2]"Most of the medically bankrupt were average Americans who happened to get sick. Health insurance offered little protection."
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[SIZE=2]"Among those whose illnesses led to bankruptcy, out-of-pocket costs averaged $11,854 since the start of illness; 75.7 percent had insurance at the onset of illness."
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[SIZE=2]Yep. We have a system that works all-right. We don't want government involved with this well-oiled machine.
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A 20% increase in health insurance premiums (smaller than the increase seen in many areas in the past 3 years) would reduce the probability of being employed by 2.4 percentage points—the equivalent of approximately 3.5 million workers.
You think your employer pays for your health insurance? Read this:
We find that the cost of increasing health insurance premiums is borne
primarily by workers in the form of decreased wages for workers with
EHI—so that they bear the full cost of the premium increase.
Nope, there is no free lunch out there. While millions of employers are struggling, wages stay stagnant, people are losing jobs due to increase in health care costs, insurance companies and drug industry are making a killing. Yep, I guess it comes with being a free country. Free to get away with whatever you want if you have the power.
The question at hand is: "Is Health Care a Right or a Privilege". The linked article below takes a good cut at the question. I have to agree with the author.
Our current healthcare system is based on a premise no longer valid. Health Insurance was created as a safety net for all, only to be used by some, and only when medical needs were extraordinary, costs were very low. It has evolved into a subsidy for anything and everything remotely associated with the medical field in which everyone is a beneficiary.
The foundation of any insurance industry is that some will pay in to the fund without needing returns, allowing those requiring the benefits to receive benefits above what they contributed. In today's healthcare system, everyone is a beneficiary, how can we continue on this course?
And yes, Health Care is a right that needs to be championed by any civilized society. I am no liberal, but some principles are absolute.
I guess he meant natives. I don't agree with his point though. They do have Indian Health Service.
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i just think that US has become all about money and forgot to take care of it's people. ALSO maybe your mother, brother, niece, daughter, etc. sometime down the line might not afford it. College kids etc.
