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Once again we read more leftist rhetoric from a self-described conservative.
Death penalties are warranted for abhorrent actions such as murder. The Bible clearly condones capital punishment for capital crimes and our laws favoring the death penalty are based on these Biblical verses.
And he that killeth any man shall surely be put to death.
And he that killeth a beast shall make it good; beast for beast.
And if a man cause a blemish in his neighbour; as he hath done, so shall it be done to him;
Breach for breach, eye for eye, tooth for tooth: as he hath caused a blemish in a man, so shall it be done to him again.
And he that killeth a beast, he shall restore it: and he that killeth a man, he shall be put to death. Leviticus 24:18-21
Your point about being a risk in executing the innocent is well-stated; however, life is full of risks. Simply waking up in the morning and shaving involves risks. You being a non-believer in our Lord Savior involves an enormous risk. Are you getting the message?
Locking someone up in prison for life is more costly to society when you consider the prisoners' three meals per day, healthcare, and the basic expenses of housing these societal deviants.
Unfortunately the question is not as simple as yes or no for some of us. If the legal system was fair and everyone had the same level of defense I might support it, but with today’s justice system it is just too likely an innocent person can get put to death, one is too many. Lock em up in maximum security prisons and keep them locked down for 23 hours a day, it is a living death but it is at least one where we can later release them if found to be not guilty, death is irreversible.
Casper
I support the death penalty but not for the reasons one might think. My father was murdered when I was 14, but I still didn't support the death penalty and even gave an impassioned speech against the death penalty several years later in a college speech class. I know this opinion isn't popular here, but I began to change my feelings after studying the Bible. A lot of people will state that old testament law prescribed capital punishment for many things and it did. But if I understand the Bible correctly, the only offense before the law was given, (outside of the law that the Jews were given) that merited death, was "murder." This was because man was made in the image of God and his life was therefore, sacred. The scribe penalty for taking that life was death.
So today I do support the death penalty based on that biblical injunction for certain heinous murders. I am concerned, however, that too many innocent people may be executed. I do think this argument against it carries some weight. However, our lengthy appeals process does give some slack with that. On the other hand, we do have the ability today to incarcerate people in a very secure manner so that they are not loosed on society. Overall, though, I woudn't say I'm "for" the death penalty but it is legal in my state and I am not against as I was in college. I do support judicious use of it.
Many people are under the mistaken impression that capital punishment saves money and/or serves a deterrent.
No, the purpose is to kill the killers. The purpose is justice. It just needs to happen faster after sentencing. It's the appeal process that's in need of reform.
No, the purpose is to kill the killers. The purpose is justice. It just needs to happen faster after sentencing. It's the appeal process that's in need of reform.
No, the purpose is to kill the killers. The purpose is justice. It just needs to happen faster after sentencing. It's the appeal process that's in need of reform.
Not at all; the purpose is not justice, it is retribution. The appeals process is a safety net so that we don't execute the innocent. If one of your family were falsely convicted of a murder and sentenced to death, you would want that process in place so that you could set them (rightfully) free.
This is why I oppose the death penalty. Convictions are the opinion of twelve people who are presented with evidence that is, by design, weighted toward the prosecution. They draw a conclusion from the whole of the trial.
In death penalty cases, many who are accused cannot afford an attorney at all, and must use the public defender system. Public defenders have high caseloads, and frequently have little to no experience in defending a death penalty case - it's luck of the draw as to which cases they get, to my understanding.
As I recall, in Texas, a public defender slept through significant portions of his client's trial, and the Texas Supreme Court held that he got a fair trial despite his attorney's non-participation in it. Can you say that this man was truly guilty? I can't. (I don't remember what crime the man was accused.) In a death penalty case, with limited appeals, this is unforgivable.
I support capital punishment over life imprisonment.
There is a cost savings when you factor in medical care, room and board, for the life of a criminal behind bars. That's one less criminal you have to take care of till he's 80.
Exterminate him and make room for another criminal.
Charles Manson should have been dead at least 30 years ago.
No, the purpose is to kill the killers. The purpose is justice. It just needs to happen faster after sentencing. It's the appeal process that's in need of reform.
Good luck taking away rights to appeals. Courts would have a huge problem with that.
Don't get me wrong - some reforms could be possible, but taking away the right would be unconstitutional.
Once again we read more leftist rhetoric from a self-described conservative.
Death penalties are warranted for abhorrent actions such as murder. The Bible clearly condones capital punishment for capital crimes and our laws favoring the death penalty are based on these Biblical verses.
And he that killeth any man shall surely be put to death. And he that killeth a beast shall make it good; beast for beast. And if a man cause a blemish in his neighbour; as he hath done, so shall it be done to him; Breach for breach, eye for eye, tooth for tooth: as he hath caused a blemish in a man, so shall it be done to him again. And he that killeth a beast, he shall restore it: and he that killeth a man, he shall be put to death.
Leviticus 24:18-21
The Bible has no place in our laws.
And, yes, I am a CONSERVATIVE, though a relatively moderate one. Get it into that thick skull of yours. All conservatives don't go around full of hatred the way you do.
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Originally Posted by yikesamillion
Locking someone up in prison for life is more costly to society when you consider the prisoners' three meals per day, healthcare, and the basic expenses of housing these societal deviants.
Wrong. The costs of the trial and appeals in a DP case greatly outweigh the costs of locking an offender up for the rest of his or her life.
Wrong. The costs of the trial and appeals in a DP case greatly outweigh the costs of locking an offender up for the rest of his or her life.
Not every prisoner can afford to foot the bill for their appeal.
That will knock the price down considerably.
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