The economy stinks, and it’s going to get worse. Much worse. (health care, Obama)

[bentlebee]

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She is so right. I have lived with socialized health care...it seems nice, but wait till you get old or your parents are getting old and are send away each time with the message "it is because you are old and you have to live with it", we have seen it and experienced how bad it is.

My mother in law came here 2 years ago for a 2 month stay at our home, approved by her physician. She is having health issues for years and we have been at the doctor office with her. She had surgery but every time was send out faster...of course the doctor get's paid the same if she comes in 1 time a year or every week and isn't it nicer to see a 18 year old girl than a 76 old woman!
Within 3 days of her arrival we had noticed some serious issues and after 2 weeks she was transported by an ambulance to the ER. Within 24 hours we were told what was wrong with her. As the physicians stated, "what wasn't wrong with her", it was very bad and we were advised to have her admitted to a nursing home but the socialized health care in Europe didn't want to pay for her so we offered to take her back home with us, since she was too sick to get surgery and since she only weighted 109 lbs and being 5.8", isn't very healthy. Her blood pressure was 225 over 150 and after it was brought back to a reasonable level and 2 weeks stay in the hospital we took her home. Things got worse and after 5 days of not eating and hardly drinking she was transported to a hospice....OMG, that was what the socialized health care ins. thought in Europe and they send a physician over to the hospice and told us she had to transported back to a hospital in Europe. Since no hospital in her own country wanted her and only Belgium was willing to take her (but we refused), she ended up in a local Dutch hospital. All the papers, MRI's X-Rays, Cat scan's were send by us to the hospital and we were told they arrived...unfortuantely they did nothing with them and told her she had to eat more and gain weight...they gave her all kinds of greasy food (which was strictly forbidden by the doctors over here because of her infected pancreas) and after 10 days we got word she was going to be send home (living alone in a single family home)...we were so mad and booked a flight home...this was 10 days after coming from the nursing home over here....2 days later she had died and the doctors told us they couldn't believe how this could have happened and asked to perform an autopsy...we agreed and all we got as the results was the same as the doctors over here told us within 24 hours. Btw when we asked about the dementia results from the autopsy they told us we never had requested that part for the autopsy...they had called me to ask for an autopsy...shouldn't that have been the whole body?

So if you want your loves ones to die like she did and how many elderly people are living to believe they have health insurance (but basically they are written off), than choose for Obama's health plan, but if you care about your loved ones..talk to Europeans who lived the health scare and so called health insurance...you never can choose anymore!

[ViewFromThePeak]

b-b-b-b-b-ut if you just think happy thoughts things will get better! Don't be such a debbie downer!

[nvxplorer]

Originally Posted by Doctor Zero

The Dow is a calculated average of industrial stock prices, meant to measure the overall value of the American industrial sector.

Who is this piece written for? Fifth graders?

Another adjective-heavy, anti-government puff piece. Nothing new here.

[ViewFromThePeak]

Originally Posted by nvxplorer

Who is this piece written for? Fifth graders?

Another adjective-heavy, anti-government puff piece. Nothing new here.

Interesting. You introduced a criticism and a praise in the same breath.

[nvxplorer]

Originally Posted by ViewFromThePeak

Interesting. You introduced a criticism and a praise in the same breath.

No, I didn't.

[ViewFromThePeak]

Originally Posted by nvxplorer

No, I didn't.

Yes you did

"I know you are but what am I?"

- Pee Wee Herman

Oh, that reminds me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwzEx0t-cmA

[rlchurch]

My 401 (k) is up about 20% this quarter. I didn't lose that much value during the Bush Depression because I saw it coming, so in a few more weeks I'll be ahead of the game again.

[ViewFromThePeak]

Originally Posted by rlchurch

My 401 (k) is up about 20% this quarter. I didn't lose that much value during the Bush Depression because I saw it coming, so in a few more weeks I'll be ahead of the game again.

You could chuck a dart on a board and easily get that return.

Try 50-100% up in 3 months on traditional sectors with non-volatile stocks.

[nvxplorer]

Originally Posted by ViewFromThePeak

Yes you did

"I know you are but what am I?"

- Pee Wee Herman

Oh, that reminds me:


YouTube - Obama the Pee Wee!

No, you're a stinker!

[compJockey]

I'm up about 50%, having invested Nov 5.

$1500 invested

Roughly $2000 value today