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Seriously folks, is this all really a surprise? Do we not all know that MSNBC promotes a contemporary leftist view? Do we not all know that Fox promotes a contemporary rightist view?
Do people believe that there was ever a time in American history that some form of media bias didn't exist?
I'm sure the fact that MSNBC and NBC are owned by GE has NOTHING to do with it .
GE is heavily invested in the current admin, they received bailout money, they are banking on the passage of Cap & Trade and windmills for big profits, and the GE connection list goes on and on.
GE is also heavily invested in the tools of war and the promulgation of an expansionist foreign policy and geopolitical destabilization. Hence not truly a traditional liberal position but certainly a contemporary leftist one.
Question: Is there a problem with a media outlet having a given political bias when other outlets offer an alternative?
Don't think anyone is surprised by the slant of Fox/ MSNBC, etc ESPECIALLY when one is referring to O'Reilly, etc. - they are commentators.
The sad thing is when people think they are getting the news from those who claim to be reporters. I'd love to see a poll, but I'd bet that the majority of people who watch the news on the major networks think they are getting "just the facts" news and think they are getting the news of which they should be made aware. It's sad that they are only getting the news which leads them to believe a certain way.
Take Global Warming vs Cap & Trade for instance.
Lots of shows on the news about GW. But 76% of voters have no idea what Cap & Trade is -- so sad, since it will affect every citizen in the US. Agree or disagree with it, the people should be informed.
I don't know that anyone ever respected msnbc as a news organization, dating back to it's inception. I think what he meant to say was, "We noticed FOX news was taking in the dough, and then we looked over to the left and there was a trail of money, so we just kept following it until we hit a *really* big pile of over leftwards."
Don't think anyone is surprised by the slant of Fox/ MSNBC, etc ESPECIALLY when one is referring to O'Reilly, etc. - they are commentators.
The sad thing is when people think they are getting the news from those who claim to be reporters. I'd love to see a poll, but I'd bet that the majority of people who watch the news on the major networks think they are getting "just the facts" news and think they are getting the news of which they should be made aware. It's sad that they are only getting the news which leads them to believe a certain way.
Take Global Warming vs Cap & Trade for instance.
Lots of shows on the news about GW. But 76% of voters have no idea what Cap & Trade is -- so sad, since it will affect every citizen in the US. Agree or disagree with it, the people should be informed.
Yea, I think there is a problem with that.
Well I see two issues here, one being the growing lack of critical reasoning by the American public in general and the other being profit driven information services.
Give me control of one of the big three cable media outlets and I could have at least a small percentage of the American public drinking their own urine in the belief that it will restore a loss of hair or stimulate a diminishing libido within a month. So if I were to do such a thing, it comes down to who is at fault, the fool or the fool who follows them?
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Originally Posted by Geechie North
Amazing that on a political board, so very little is known about current events which make politics!
Anyone here watch the network on a regular basis the past 5 years??
Well keep in mind, we have all levels of age, experience and understanding on these public forums, so lets not forget.
I'm curious if you have ever been privy to watching Link Tv, which while having a liberal view also provides a great deal more substantive content? Outside of that, I think it should be noted that many Americans do not yet own a computer, let alone have access and understanding to internet provided information. Thus their only source of news related information is derived from TV, cable or otherwise.
I don't know that anyone ever respected msnbc as a news organization, dating back to it's inception. I think what he meant to say was, "We noticed FOX news was taking in the dough, and then we looked over to the left and there was a trail of money, so we just kept following it until we hit a *really* big pile of over leftwards."
Well I see two issues here, one being the growing lack of critical reasoning by the American public in general and the other being profit driven information services.
Give me control of one of the big three cable media outlets and I could have at least a small percentage of the American public drinking their own urine in the belief that it will restore a loss of hair or stimulate a diminishing libido within a month. So if I were to do such a thing, it comes down to who is at fault, the fool or the fool who follows them?
Well keep in mind, we have all levels of age, experience and understanding on these public forums, so lets not forget.
I'm curious if you have ever been privy to watching Link Tv, which while having a liberal view also provides a great deal more substantive content? Outside of that, I think it should be noted that many Americans do not yet own a computer, let alone have access and understanding to internet provided information. Thus their only source of news related information is derived from TV, cable or otherwise.
Better yet, I have access to Freespeech TV.
But, as the US market is heavily censored- a capitalistic Pravda/Tass- if you will, my main sources are foreign language sources, and the excellent C-Span, of course. (Not censored as it is not viewed as "news", although it is an excellent source for same.)
Well, since you're a fan of bluntness, the first lesson is that it's Akres v. Fox News. If you are possibly arguing that only FOX and its affliates tilt the news toward corporate sponsors, then I'd say you need to get out a bit more.
My third and final comment is that I only participate in Socratic exchanges with folks of proven credentials. Some anonymous personality on the Neenernet? Nope. You get to argue/present your point of view, not endlesly question mine.
Well, since you're a fan of bluntness, the first lesson is that it's Akres v. Fox News. If you are possibly arguing that only FOX and its affliates tilt the news toward corporate sponsors, then I'd say you need to get out a bit more.
My third and final comment is that I only participate in Socratic exchanges with folks of proven credentials. Some anonymous personality on the Neenernet? Nope. You get to argue/present your point of view, not endlesly question mine.
Hth. Hand
I do not question it, I say your viewpoint (at least on this issue) is utterly baseless when juxtaposed against the facts:
"The Florida dispute offers a rare look inside the newsroom at the way stories get spun and censored. It is also cracks the facade that Monsanto has erected through a highly effective, multi-million-dollar PR offensive aimed at preventing the news media from reporting the views of rBGH critics."
My point was (and is) NOT against Fox, which by now everyone knows is just a PR front for the GOP.
My point was (and is) that ALL major US media (print, radio, and TV- including MSNBC) filed amicus curae briefs with the appeals court (Akres having won at the trial court level) in support of Fox's contention that the FCC's Rule against reporting info CLEARLY opposed to facts was just a "suggestion", and not a Rule at all- although it had been on the books for decades.
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