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Old 06-20-2009, 04:21 PM
LML
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Why are 90% of black Americans so alienated from the GOP? I have a few African-American friends who actually sound very Republican but would never vote for the GOP. On social issues (like the family and gay rights) black Americans can be the most conservative segments of society. Questioning my friends on why this is, I could not get a straight answer other than they are "racist." Why really are African-Americans alienated from the GOP?
They are TELLING you the reason. You just aren't hearing it. Back in the day, most AA voted republican. That was the party of Lincoln after all. And President Eisenhower was the one who sent National Guard into the south to protect the AA children who were finally being "allowed" to attend previously all white schools. So when things started to change and southern whites became obsessed because their kids were attending school with black children and when black people began demanding the right to vote and the right to have jobs for which they were qualified there were Democrats in the Whitehouse and southern whites became so angry they were ripe for the picking. And then came the "Southern Strategy" that was developed by Nixon and his henchmen. They figured they could grab and hold forever the southern white vote if they let it be known that they were on the side of the whites against the black people. They did it with subtle code words and phrases and by pitting "us against them" in every way possible. And it worked. This is all easily confirmed by reading history.....and AA people know it.
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Old 06-21-2009, 01:27 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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They are TELLING you the reason. You just aren't hearing it. Back in the day, most AA voted republican. That was the party of Lincoln after all. And President Eisenhower was the one who sent National Guard into the south to protect the AA children who were finally being "allowed" to attend previously all white schools. So when things started to change and southern whites became obsessed because their kids were attending school with black children and when black people began demanding the right to vote and the right to have jobs for which they were qualified there were Democrats in the Whitehouse and southern whites became so angry they were ripe for the picking. And then came the "Southern Strategy" that was developed by Nixon and his henchmen. They figured they could grab and hold forever the southern white vote if they let it be known that they were on the side of the whites against the black people. They did it with subtle code words and phrases and by pitting "us against them" in every way possible. And it worked. This is all easily confirmed by reading history.....and AA people know it.
That does not jive with actual history. It was the Republicans who supported Civil Rights, not the Democrats. Sen. Robert "KKK" Byrd himself filibustered the Civil Rights Act of 1964 for 14 hours before it was passed by the Republicans.

Martin Luther King Jr. was a Republican, as has been EVERY civil rights leader that has ever accomplished anything. Democrats have been, and still are, the biggest bigots in the nation.
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Old 06-21-2009, 05:39 AM
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That does not jive with actual history. It was the Republicans who supported Civil Rights, not the Democrats. Sen. Robert "KKK" Byrd himself filibustered the Civil Rights Act of 1964 for 14 hours before it was passed by the Republicans.

Martin Luther King Jr. was a Republican, as has been EVERY civil rights leader that has ever accomplished anything. Democrats have been, and still are, the biggest bigots in the nation.
WOW. Obviously some people either didn't read or didn't understand what I wrote, didn't read any history books, don't watch the news, and sort of make reality up as they go along.
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Old 06-21-2009, 08:38 AM
 
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They are TELLING you the reason. You just aren't hearing it. Back in the day, most AA voted republican. That was the party of Lincoln after all. And President Eisenhower was the one who sent National Guard into the south to protect the AA children who were finally being "allowed" to attend previously all white schools. So when things started to change and southern whites became obsessed because their kids were attending school with black children and when black people began demanding the right to vote and the right to have jobs for which they were qualified there were Democrats in the Whitehouse and southern whites became so angry they were ripe for the picking. And then came the "Southern Strategy" that was developed by Nixon and his henchmen. They figured they could grab and hold forever the southern white vote if they let it be known that they were on the side of the whites against the black people. They did it with subtle code words and phrases and by pitting "us against them" in every way possible. And it worked. This is all easily confirmed by reading history.....and AA people know it.

it goes back a little further than that, there were pockets of democrats starting to support blacks who were once vocally racist like truman..

truman used the N word vocally, then he changed once he sought that communism were a big supporter of civil rights, truman de segregate the Military something no other politician did, he took a stance on civil rights.

other democrat delegates walk out on him in disgust with his pro stance on civil rights-strom thurmond was one of the democrats who walked out on him then came the states rights party then the switch to the republican party

jesse helms is the father of conservatism in the republican party after the 50's he helped shaped it,

republican party had many wings of it anad has slowly become the southern party since the late 60's
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Old 06-21-2009, 10:44 AM
 
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Clearly the liberal freaks want to rewrite history, as evidenced by LML's fantasies. Here is a dose of reality:
  • May 1866: The Ku Klux Klan was formed in Pulaski, Tennessee by ex-confederate Democrats.
  • Jul. 30, 1866: New Orleans' Democratic government ordered police to raid an integrated Republican meeting, killing 40 people and injuring 150. Also in 1866, 94 percent of Republican senators and 96 percent of Republican House members approved the 14th Amendment, guaranteeing all Americans equal protection of the law. Every congressional Democrat voted “No.”
  • Apr. 1987: Former confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest (Democrat) organizes the Men of Justice, the Pale Faces, the Constitutional Union Guards, the White Brotherhood, and the Order of the White Rose under the Ku Klux Klan and becomes the first Grand Wizard.
  • Apr. 20, 1871: The Republican Congress adopted the Ku Klux Klan Act, banning the Democrat domestic terrorist group.
  • Feb. 8, 1894: Democratic President Grover Cleveland and a Democratic Congress repealed the Republican’s Enforcement Act, thus denying black voters federal protection.
  • Jan. 26, 1922: The House adopted a Republican bill to make lynching a federal crime. Filibustering Senate Democrats killed the measure.
  • Aug. 17, 1937: Republicans opposed Democratic President Franklin Roosevelt’s Supreme Court nominee, Sen. Hugo Black, D-AL, a former Klansman who defended Klansmen against race-murder charges.
  • Sep. 24, 1957: Eisenhower deployed the 101st Airborne Division to desegregate Little Rock’s government schools over the strenuous resistance of Democratic Gov. Orval Faubus.
  • Jul. 2, 1964: Democratic President Johnson signed the 1964 Civil Rights Act after former Klansman Sen. Robert Byrd’s 14-hour filibuster and the votes of 34% of Senate Democrat majority failed to scuttle the measure.
  • Present Day: The Democrats’ Klan-coddling today is embodied by KKK alumnus Robert Byrd, West Virginia’s senator.
These are just a few examples of the very long history of Democrat bigotry. No amount of fiction spewed forth by liberal freaks will unmake their despicable history of hate, or cause it to be forgotten.
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Old 06-21-2009, 10:59 AM
 
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Clearly the liberal freaks want to rewrite history, as evidenced by LML's fantasies. Here is a dose of reality:
More like a does of ancient history when the best you can come up with is a apologetic 92 year old.

A more recent history, and I'm talking about over the last 50 years, those die hard racist Democrats defected in mass to the Republican Party as a result of a calculated strategy put forth by Barry Goldwater and Richard Nixon. Over the course of that period, the Republican Party has pushed out most if not all of its former moderate members and replaced them with Dixiecrat racist as recent news stories have amply demonstrated.
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Old 06-21-2009, 11:02 AM
 
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Somehow the far right has taken over the GOP. It's just not palatable anymore. I voted for Bush in 88 and 92. Clinton in 96, and I never looked back.
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Old 06-21-2009, 11:56 AM
 
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Yes, I don't know why they asked the question if they do not want to hear the answer.

We all know the hard core racists left the dems and went to the GOP around the Civil Rights era. The impression that Blacks ahve now is that the GOP doesn't want nor do they need them. Blacks are in general far more conservative than most liberal democrats. But they feel that those liberal democrats are more accepting of them than the GOP.

There is no place for me in the GOP if folks like Limbaugh and Palin and Graham are the face of the GOP. I find it telling that Watts and Powell are on the outs with the GOP now. You asked and that's the truth.

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More like a does of ancient history when the best you can come up with is a apologetic 92 year old.

A more recent history, and I'm talking about over the last 50 years, those die hard racist Democrats defected in mass to the Republican Party as a result of a calculated strategy put forth by Barry Goldwater and Richard Nixon. Over the course of that period, the Republican Party has pushed out most if not all of its former moderate members and replaced them with Dixiecrat racist as recent news stories have amply demonstrated.
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Old 06-21-2009, 12:00 PM
 
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I know plenty that call themselves African, since most Westerners aren't familiar with the geo-political landscape of Africa and the different countries in it.

African is a continent. People from the continent refer to themselves by their country of origin or their ethnic group. Nigerian, Kenyan, Ugandan, South African, Liberian. I have NEVER heard them call themselves African American.
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Old 06-21-2009, 02:00 PM
 
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Clearly the liberal freaks want to rewrite history, as evidenced by LML's fantasies. Here is a dose of reality:
  • May 1866: The Ku Klux Klan was formed in Pulaski, Tennessee by ex-confederate Democrats.
  • Jul. 30, 1866: New Orleans' Democratic government ordered police to raid an integrated Republican meeting, killing 40 people and injuring 150. Also in 1866, 94 percent of Republican senators and 96 percent of Republican House members approved the 14th Amendment, guaranteeing all Americans equal protection of the law. Every congressional Democrat voted “No.”
  • Apr. 1987: Former confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest (Democrat) organizes the Men of Justice, the Pale Faces, the Constitutional Union Guards, the White Brotherhood, and the Order of the White Rose under the Ku Klux Klan and becomes the first Grand Wizard.
  • Apr. 20, 1871: The Republican Congress adopted the Ku Klux Klan Act, banning the Democrat domestic terrorist group.
  • Feb. 8, 1894: Democratic President Grover Cleveland and a Democratic Congress repealed the Republican’s Enforcement Act, thus denying black voters federal protection.
  • Jan. 26, 1922: The House adopted a Republican bill to make lynching a federal crime. Filibustering Senate Democrats killed the measure.
  • Aug. 17, 1937: Republicans opposed Democratic President Franklin Roosevelt’s Supreme Court nominee, Sen. Hugo Black, D-AL, a former Klansman who defended Klansmen against race-murder charges.
  • Sep. 24, 1957: Eisenhower deployed the 101st Airborne Division to desegregate Little Rock’s government schools over the strenuous resistance of Democratic Gov. Orval Faubus.
  • Jul. 2, 1964: Democratic President Johnson signed the 1964 Civil Rights Act after former Klansman Sen. Robert Byrd’s 14-hour filibuster and the votes of 34% of Senate Democrat majority failed to scuttle the measure.
  • Present Day: The Democrats’ Klan-coddling today is embodied by KKK alumnus Robert Byrd, West Virginia’s senator.
These are just a few examples of the very long history of Democrat bigotry. No amount of fiction spewed forth by liberal freaks will unmake their despicable history of hate, or cause it to be forgotten.

are u stupid or dumb? democrats werent liberals then. so the way you are equating liberalism today with some states rights b.s from yesterday is beyond me, if thats the case why do blacks call ourselves americans? when this country was made/ created by the terrorist(founding fathers) blacks were not included so the racism and bigotry goes far beyond your fantasy(make believe) of liberalism and conservatism of the pre reconstruction and post reconstruction era...

talk about those who know absolutely nothing and blacks were heavily republican yes but whats the deal now/ ANSWER THAT...

present day: robert byrd, jesse helms-recently deceased, supporter of radical white racist and racial policies.

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Jul. 2, 1964: Democratic President Johnson signed the 1964 Civil Rights Act after former Klansman Sen. Robert Byrd’s 14-hour filibuster and the votes of 34% of Senate Democrat majority failed to scuttle the measure.
i dont know if you notice but these 2 are democrats there were a few types of democrats during those times.

all you conservative republicans can do is point to the past of the democratic party but yet fail to realise the policies u been putting forth are the policies practiced by racist southern democrats lol. and these were and are something that lincoln would not support but yet you want to glorfy abe lincoln? wtf for if your policies are not intact
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