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Old 06-04-2009, 12:18 AM
 
Location: Palm Springs, CA
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They are against government interference in the marketplace. They favor free-market principles, oh you know, the ones that made our country great and prosperous?
That doesn't sound like the GOP of the last 10 years.
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Old 06-04-2009, 12:20 AM
 
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Why really are African-Americans alienated from the GOP?
It starts with the Southern Strategy.


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It was called "the southern strategy," started under Richard M. Nixon in 1968, and described Republican efforts to use race as a wedge issue -- on matters such as desegregation and busing -- to appeal to white southern voters...

RNC Chief to Say It Was 'Wrong' to Exploit Racial Conflict for Votes
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Old 06-04-2009, 12:20 AM
 
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That doesn't sound like the GOP of the last 10 years.
Sadly, you speak the truth. We've been infested by RINO's and ran one as our candidate, just like the left keeps telling us we should do. How'd that work out for us?
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Old 06-04-2009, 12:21 AM
 
Location: Palm Springs, CA
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If the left keeps pushing gay marriage, both the black and hispanic communities will come to the "right" conclusion (See what I did there, huh, huh?)

Seriously, though, the social issues will be will be the deciding factor. Mark my words.
I don't see that happening. Young Latinos support same-sex marriage in much greater numbers than their elders, just as young whites do. Even if some disagree with same-sex marriage, that issue isn't important enough to most Democrats to warrant switching to the Republicans.
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Old 06-04-2009, 12:23 AM
 
Location: Palm Springs, CA
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Sadly, you speak the truth. We've been infested by RINO's and ran one as our candidate, just like the left keeps telling us we should do. How'd that work out for us?
Hey, don't blame "the left". Republicans chose McCain as their nominee. No one forced them to do it.
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Old 06-04-2009, 12:24 AM
 
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I don't see that happening. Young Latinos support same-sex marriage in much greater numbers than their elders, just as young whites do. Even if some disagree with same-sex marriage, that issue isn't important enough to most Democrats to warrant switching to the Republicans.
Bookmark my post and we'll have a gentlemens wager on it. Do some googling on gays in Mexico and machismo. If the left keeps ramming gay marriage down everyones throat (don't go there) the black and hispanic communities will vote conservative in much greater %'s then they do now.
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Old 06-04-2009, 12:26 AM
 
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Hey, don't blame "the left". Republicans chose McCain as their nominee. No one forced them to do it.
No, you're right, but every thread started by a lefty telling us who we should be running as candidates are all like McCain; dem light. If people want a true leftisit why would they vote for an impostor?
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Old 06-04-2009, 12:27 AM
 
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No, you're right, but every thread started by a lefty telling us who we should be running as candidates are all like McCain; dem light. If people want a true leftisit why would they vote for an impostor?
I would never advise that. I say: Pick Palin!
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Old 06-04-2009, 12:28 AM
 
Location: New York, New York
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If the left keeps pushing gay marriage, both the black and hispanic communities will come to the "right" conclusion (See what I did there, huh, huh?)

Seriously, though, the social issues will be will be the deciding factor. Mark my words.
Sorry, but although most hispanics are somewhat socially conservative they are also repulsed by the Republican party. As long as the Republicans continue to be anti worker/middle class/poor they will continue to lose the hispanic vote by huge margins.
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Old 06-04-2009, 12:28 AM
 
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I see you are asking for another mental butt whooping.

You seem to assume that because a consensus comes to the same opinion based upon individual experience that this is group think. I submit that when 90% of individuals come to the same conclusion based upon copious information that such a conclusion moves into the realm of common and accepted knowledge.
So what your saying is is 90% of a group of people think a certain way that automatically makes it right?

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Any African American with half a brain, or sense of personal self-esteem after spending, oh let's say a couple of hours, perusing the post of conservative Republicans here on CD, a few clips of the leading Republican pundits and commentators, would be hard pressed to come away with anything other than the impression that conservatives have little interest in the issue confronting African Americans if not down right hostility to their interest.
Any "African-American" with half a brain would use it and form his own independent judgements based upon the facts at hand.

They for example, would figure out, that white liberal paternalism and democratic party policies are in fact, a detriment to their advancement and independence.

Conservatives/libertarians are not going to chase you around and bend over backward. I'm sorry its just not how they operate. If you want that stick with the democrats. If you want prosperity, freedom and independance talk to conservatives and libertarians.

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Now the Republicans may have fooled you, but to paraphrase a famous Republican, you can fool some of the brothers all of the time, but you can't fool most brothers ever.
No one has the wool over their eyes but you. I make my own judgements. I am not saying the republicans are perfect, but they represent the best chance to restoring some measure of American liberty and ideals.
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