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Old 05-08-2010, 09:35 PM
 
Location: WI
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Wrong. Here he is "bending over to shake hands with a shorter man" per Robert Gibbs.

It's a sign of respect, obviously. Apparently, it's unAmerican now to be respectful to someone? Gotta love the right wings logic.
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Old 05-08-2010, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Neither here nor there
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Bowing is a sign of submission. There are many ways of showing respect without bowing down to someone's waist level. Obama did not bow to the Queen of England. Does this mean he doesn't respect her?
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Old 05-08-2010, 09:46 PM
 
Location: WI
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Bowing is a sign of submission. There are many ways of showing respect without bowing down to someone's waist level. Obama did not bow to the Queen of England. Does this mean he doesn't respect her?

No, because it's not part of the English tradition to bow to someone.
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Old 05-08-2010, 09:58 PM
 
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Bowing is a sign of submission. There are many ways of showing respect without bowing down to someone's waist level. Obama did not bow to the Queen of England. Does this mean he doesn't respect her?
You're asserting a western, American value into a Middle Eastern cultural tradition. There's really nothing submissive about it. It's just the cultural norm and presidents always abide by the culture they are visiting in both their demeanor and, in some circumstances, their dress.

Likewise, there are certain behaviors that are acceptable around the Queen of England and Obama abided by those with her. No different than the King of Saudi Arabia. To do otherwise in either country would be seen as a profound insult. Just think of the flap Michelle got in the media (though not from the Crown) for putting her arm on the Queen's back.
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Old 05-09-2010, 07:26 AM
 
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WHO flunked English in school:

An explanation for the Limbaugh droolers:
Obama""Now, the flip side is I think that the United States and the West generally, we have to educate ourselves more effectively on Islam. And one of the points I want to make is, is that if you actually took the number of Muslims Americans, we’d be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world. And so there’s got to be a better dialogue and a better understanding between the two peoples.
Hard-core rhetoricians will note that Obama was employing an obscure tense known as the “conditional,” and an arcane rhetorical device known as a “hypothetical.” He said that if you were to take the number of Muslims in America, then one could see America as ranking up there with other Muslim countries — in numerical, hypothetical terms.
Using reason on the unreasonable. Ain't you figured out yet, that don't work?
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Old 05-09-2010, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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All Japanese people are submissive, because like, they bow a lot. In fact, the idea of them ever not being submissive is unthinkable.

Like, they would ever be combative or something. DUH?

Second Sino-Japanese War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This thread is full of win.
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Old 05-09-2010, 09:24 AM
 
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OMG, is this true? We have a lot of Muslims here?

GET. THEM. OUT.
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Old 05-09-2010, 09:26 AM
 
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Bowing from the waist low enough to lose eye contact is an act that signals submission. Other US heads of state have made courteous bows to foreign heads of states but I have found no pictures of any who have ever done it to the depth seen in Obama's bow and genuflection to King Abdullah. In Saudi Arabia the custom of male greeting between equals is for men to kiss each other on the cheek. Before you ask, no, I don't think he should have done that, either. Obama's subsequent bows to other heads of state, even the mayor of Tampa, are nothing but damage control for the heat he took for bowing to King Abdullah. The lack of a return bow to Obama from these heads of state is noteworthy.
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Old 05-09-2010, 10:09 AM
 
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Bowing from the waist low enough to lose eye contact is an act that signals submission. Other US heads of state have made courteous bows to foreign heads of states but I have found no pictures of any who have ever done it to the depth seen in Obama's bow and genuflection to King Abdullah. In Saudi Arabia the custom of male greeting between equals is for men to kiss each other on the cheek. Before you ask, no, I don't think he should have done that, either. Obama's subsequent bows to other heads of state, even the mayor of Tampa, are nothing but damage control for the heat he took for bowing to King Abdullah. The lack of a return bow to Obama from these heads of state is noteworthy.
Please provide evidence for your claim that all other bows are damage control. So far as I can tell, that's just your belief asserted because you really, really want it to be true.

That doesn't hold up in the realm of rational debate.
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Old 05-09-2010, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Way,Way Up On The Old East Coast
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hussein obama is such a liar he feels more comfortable with lies than the truth on everything.
dcsldcd !!! ...

Indeed HO's excessively postulated statements as of late have become totally ludicrious !

The shame and embarrassment factor for the WH crew must be totally non-existent !

Thanks / Old Sgt. Lamar
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