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Old 06-04-2009, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Basically, everything Obama does is BAD and wrong but these Conservative talk show hosts have no better suggestions. I am sick of listening to these people criticize everything Obama does yet, they offer no OPTIONS! The Conservative movement is DEAD!

Well I guess that makes it final. Some gabehcuod on the internet claimed it! It must be true.
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Old 06-04-2009, 12:11 PM
 
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This is true, but the ideologies themselves are not static. The conservative side will gain power again, but the ideology of God, guns and gays is done.
Over 300 million guns in the US alone. Greater than 80% religious following and gay movements popping up like no tomorrow... Delusional would be good for your status...
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Old 06-04-2009, 12:14 PM
 
Location: New York, New York
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Just as much? You could add up every presidents debt in history and it wouldn't be just as much....
Same could be said about Bush and your boy Reagan...How about stating something of substance...like you often do.
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Old 06-04-2009, 12:15 PM
 
Location: New York, New York
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So did FDR, despite the double digit unemployment but hey people loved him... People loved Jimmy Carter too by the way...
They loved Reagan for romising smaller government while growing it and running up massive debt while preaching fiscal responsibility. It goes both ways.
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Old 06-04-2009, 12:16 PM
 
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There will always be "conservatives", these are people that like America at any given snapshot and want to "conserve" things about it.

Always there will be people moving from the immigrant class to the nativist mentality. You see that today with some jewish voters becoming Republicans (aka Neocons). At some point in the future, the Hispanic majority in the Southwest will produce a nativist mentality that seeks to maintain their status quo.
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Old 06-04-2009, 12:21 PM
 
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Over 300 million guns in the US alone. Greater than 80% religious following and gay movements popping up like no tomorrow... Delusional would be good for your status...
Ideology, dude...ideology...

...nevermind. You got to write "delusional." Good for you.
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Old 06-04-2009, 12:31 PM
 
Location: I currently exist only in a state of mind. one too complex for geographic location.
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Basically, everything Obama does is BAD and wrong but these Conservative talk show hosts have no better suggestions. I am sick of listening to these people criticize everything Obama does yet, they offer no OPTIONS! The Conservative movement is DEAD!

then why do you listen to them? I don't listen to them.
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Old 06-04-2009, 12:34 PM
 
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Same could be said about Bush and your boy Reagan...How about stating something of substance...like you often do.
You forgot 41 other president and no you'd be dead wrong trying to claim that for Bush and Reagan and the 30 or so other presidents that ran into the red. You can spin it however you want. When it's double digit unemployment, 20%+ inflation and the "rich" paying for it all it'll be just like the 70's. People will remember real quick the end game of this ridiculous type of ideology being spewed from the white house.
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Old 06-04-2009, 12:45 PM
 
Location: New York, New York
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You forgot 41 other president and no you'd be dead wrong trying to claim that for Bush and Reagan and the 30 or so other presidents that ran into the red. You can spin it however you want. When it's double digit unemployment, 20%+ inflation and the "rich" paying for it all it'll be just like the 70's. People will remember real quick the end game of this ridiculous type of ideology being spewed from the white house.
They both did and you know it. So does everyone else here. We are not dealing with an inflation problem right now. Is that the only thing you guys can point to? I wonder if all the economist that are for spending on stimulus, and healthcare took that into consideration?
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Old 06-04-2009, 12:53 PM
 
Location: I currently exist only in a state of mind. one too complex for geographic location.
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They both did and you know it. So does everyone else here. We are not dealing with an inflation problem right now. Is that the only thing you guys can point to? I wonder if all the economist that are for spending on stimulus, and healthcare took that into consideration?
if we aren't dealing with inflation, then why did obama raise the price of gas?
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