Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
That side was covered by John B. Fury, who neglected to mention the many sins and bigotry of the Israelis. I was just balancing out the facts.
First of all, when did that land become the Palestinian's?
Inquiring minds would like to know.
I understand that if you start walking around Mt. Moriah you might notice some holes in the bedrock about 300 feet north of the Dome of the Rock. Those holes were used in the construction of Solomon's Temple a long, long time before Muslims started claiming all the lands of the people they slaughtered and an even longer time before European nations started dividing up that part of the world.
Having said that, perhaps the Palestinians would be more welcome in Israel if they would simply stop killing people.
Maybe some don't, but the standard doesn't apply to all. (which is why there are liberals that are anti-abortion, and conservatives that are pro-choice) You didn't even ask why or how I became Libertarian; so for you to automatically deny my claim with your retort is presumptuous, IMO.
I support things I choose to, I don't blindly follow party lines. In this case I fully back Israel, as well as a few other causes that are dear to me.
Okay, then on the flip side to the criticism of Israel, how come nobody has anything about how other countries treat Palestinians. Like Kuwait ethnically cleansing its country of Palestinians when Arafat supported Iraq's invasion or the wonderful living conditions of Palestinians in present day Jordan or how in less than a year, Jordan killed more Palestinians than Israel has in the past 40 years.
Shhh!
Some people don't want to hear facts when the facts go against their position of "anti-zionism/anti-Jew"/"pro-Palestinian".
First of all, when did that land become the Palestinian's?
Inquiring minds would like to know.
I understand that if you start walking around Mt. Moriah you might notice some holes in the bedrock about 300 feet north of the Dome of the Rock. Those holes were used in the construction of Solomon's Temple a long, long time before Muslims started claiming all the lands of the people they slaughtered and an even longer time before European nations started dividing up that part of the world.
Well said!
Also of further Historical measure, it is of great interest to check out the Arch of Titus in Rome, Italy; that depicts the sacking of the Second Jewish Temple (currently the site of the Dome of The Rock), in the taking of Jerusalem (70AD) in the Jewish War that started in 66AD.
Those states did not own the land that Israel occupies. Palestinians did and Israel never gave it back.
A myth easily disproved by history.
Prior to 1967, Arab states held Gaza and the West Bank for 19 years. Why didn't the Arabs create a Palestinian state when they had those areas? There was never any call for a Palestinian state. There was never any mention of a "Palestinian people" (the term did not exist).
Before the state of Israel, the term "Palestine" and "Palestinians" referred to Jews and the Jewish community. Jews created the Palestine Post, the Palestine Symphony Orchestra, the Palestine Electric Company. They even represented Palestine in the 1936 Olympics. "Palestine" and "Jews" became interchangeable. After Israel took control of those areas in a war of survival in 1967, there suddenly appeared a "Palestinian people".
This canard of historical "ownership" and an Arab national history in Palestine was created by Arafat's PLO in the late 20th century and has been promulgated ever since then. The concept of a "Palestinian people" or nation exists in a political context, not an historical one.
Again, why wasn't there a demand for a state for the "Palestinian people" when the Arabs had those areas? Because there was no "Palestinian people" at that time.
Okay, then on the flip side to the criticism of Israel, how come nobody has anything about how other countries treat Palestinians. Like Kuwait ethnically cleansing its country of Palestinians when Arafat supported Iraq's invasion or the wonderful living conditions of Palestinians in present day Jordan or how in less than a year, Jordan killed more Palestinians than Israel has in the past 40 years.
I don't support giving aid to Jordan either. I don't support giving aid to any of the countries.
Prior to 1967, Arab states held Gaza and the West Bank for 19 years. Why didn't the Arabs create a Palestinian state when they had those areas? There was never any call for a Palestinian state. There was never any mention of a "Palestinian people" (the term did not exist).
Before the state of Israel, the term "Palestine" and "Palestinians" referred to Jews and the Jewish community. Jews created the Palestine Post, the Palestine Symphony Orchestra, the Palestine Electric Company. They even represented Palestine in the 1936 Olympics. "Palestine" and "Jews" became interchangeable. After Israel took control of those areas in a war of survival in 1967, there suddenly appeared a "Palestinian people".
This canard of historical "ownership" and an Arab national history in Palestine was created by Arafat's PLO in the late 20th century and has been promulgated ever since then. The concept of a "Palestinian people" or nation exists in a political context, not an historical one.
Again, why wasn't there a demand for a state for the "Palestinian people" when the Arabs had those areas? Because there was no "Palestinian people" at that time.
Palestinians are arabs. They are just arabs associated with a certain geographical region... Palestine.
Obviously they're Arabs. What does that have to do with my question?
Was there a question in there somewhere. I thought it was rhetorical since I am sure you already know the answer to any question you may pose.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
