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Old 06-05-2009, 10:59 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Answers to Your Questions For a Better Understanding of Sexual Orientation & Homosexuality

Much like things like lobotomies, research is what caused them to remove it from the DSM-IV.

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Is homosexuality a mental disorder?

No, lesbian, gay, and bisexual orientations are not disorders. Research has found no inherent association between any of these sexual orientations and psychopathology. Both heterosexual behavior and homosexual behavior are normal aspects of human sexuality. Both have been documented in many different cultures and historical eras. Despite the persistence of stereotypes that portray lesbian, gay, and bisexual people as disturbed, several decades of research and clinical experience have led all mainstream medical and mental health organizations in this country to conclude that these orientations represent normal forms of human experience. Lesbian, gay, and bisexual relationships are normal forms of human bonding. Therefore, these mainstream organizations long ago abandoned classifications of homosexuality as a mental disorder.
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:05 AM
 
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This explains it very well:
http://www.psychiatryonline.com/DSMP...y_Revision.pdf

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For a mental or psychiatric condition to be considered a psychiatric disorder, it must either regularly cause subjective distress, or regularly be associated with some generalized impairment in social effectiveness or functioning. With the exception of homosexuality (and perhaps some of the other sexual deviations when in mild form, such as voyeurism), all of the other mental disorders in DSM-11 fulfill either of these two criteria. (While one may argue that the personality disorders are an exception, on reflection it is clear that it is inappropriate to make a diagnosis of a personality disorder merely because of the presence of certain typical personality traits which cause no subjective distress or impairment in social functioning. Clearly homosexuality, per se, does not meet the requirements for a psychiatric disorder since, as noted above, many homosexuals are quite satisfied with their sexual orientation and demonstrate no generalized impairment in social effectiveness or functioning.
The only way that homosexuality could therefore be considered a psychiatric disorder would be the criteria of failure to function heterosexually, which is considered optimal in our society and by many members of our profession.

However, if failure to function optimally in some important area of life as judged by either society or the profession is sufficient to indicate the presence of a psychiatric disorder, then we will have to add to our nomenclature the following conditions: celibacy (failure to function optimally sexually), revolutionary behavior (irrational defiance of social norms), religious fanaticism (dogmatic and rigid adherence to religious doctrine), racism (irrational hatred of certain groups), vegetarianism (unnatural avoidance of carnivorous behavior), and male chauvinism (irrational belief in the inferiority of women).
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:11 AM
 
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It was taken out of the diagnostic manual a few versions ago as it should have been.
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:16 AM
 
Location: fla
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since i am old i remember when it was removed---it was due to homosexuals not wanting the stigma of a mental illness and yes there was quite a bit of pressure placed on the medical community to have it removed led by renown gay psychiatrists----homosexual orientation was considered a natural part of human developmental phase and thereby called a personality disorder when one did not develop past that phase to a hetersexual orientation---no response needed here--just giving info on what was the thought on being homosexual a few years ago

and by the way some mini lobotomies are being done today for a variety of medical /psychiatric disorders---look it up
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:17 AM
 
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I agree with the article completely. This is not much different than the Global Warming activist threatening and retaliating against any scientist that disagrees with them.

If same sex was a normal pairing they too would produce offspring.

I would elaborate but I am sure there will be at least 10-20 more gay threads throughout the day.
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:20 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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I agree with the article completely. This is not much different than the Global Warming activist threatening and retaliating against any scientist that disagrees with them.

If same sex was a normal pairing they too would produce offspring.

I would elaborate but I am sure there will be at least 10-20 more gay threads throughout the day.
I guess when people are sterile and married, they are not in a normal pairing.
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:22 AM
 
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since i am old i remember when it was removed---it was due to homosexuals not wanting the stigma of a mental illness and yes there was quite a bit of pressure placed on the medical community to have it removed led by renown gay psychiatrists----homosexual orientation was considered a natural part of human developmental phase and thereby called a personality disorder when one did not develop past that phase to a hetersexual orientation---no response needed here--just giving info on what was the thought on being homosexual a few years ago

and by the way some mini lobotomies are being done today for a variety of medical /psychiatric disorders---look it up
Not in the same manner lobotomies were performed decades ago, and not for the same reasons. They're not icepicking teenagers brains for being "defiant" any longer.
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:24 AM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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Another lesson is that same-gender sex activists are so desperate to cover their deeply dysfunctional condition that they will stop at nothing to hide the facts from the public. Award-winning writer and same-gender sex activist Randy Shilts describes the denial among men that have sex with men, about their unhealthy lifestyles causing AIDS to be epidemic among them when he writes, “…the desperation of denial: how when something is so horrible you don’t want to believe it, you want to out it out of your mind and insist it isn’t true, and how you hate the person who says it is.” (And the Band Played On, 1988, p. 182) Desperate denial –this seems to be what drives the deceit, psychological manipulation, and intimidation of both scientific groups and the public.
It's a sick lifestyle.

I can't believe that only 32% of the APA voted for removing it from the list of disorders because 7,000 members didn't vote at all.

The intimidation and outright manipulation tactics used by the "Gay Crusaders" are still being employed today. I am surprised that a group of psychiatrists allowed the lunatics to control the madhouse.

Amazing.
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:25 AM
 
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I guess when people are sterile and married, they are not in a normal pairing.

That is a medical condition, not a mental or abnormal condition.
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:26 AM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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I agree with the article completely. This is not much different than the Global Warming activist threatening and retaliating against any scientist that disagrees with them.

If same sex was a normal pairing they too would produce offspring.

I would elaborate but I am sure there will be at least 10-20 more gay threads throughout the day.
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