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Old 06-05-2009, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Chicago Suburbs
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Thanks for the cut and paste and adding nothing to this thread. Obviously taxes need to be paid. The amount of waste that comes out of our taxes is a different story.
Care to add something to the thread other than pasting a chain email you received?
How bout it
People cry about oil company profits and never question the enormous sums of money various levels of government collect daily.
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Old 06-05-2009, 07:25 PM
 
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Your question indicates a belief that Americans pay too much in taxes.

If so, your belief is absolutely correct.

To those who argue that taxes benefit society via roads, services, etc - you are partially correct. The issue is the waste that is permitted within government, and the belief that the government is a better steward of our collective incomes than we are.

Tax reductions spur economic growth. If couples with cuts in spending, the American economy would be turned loose, job creation would result, and overall GDP would explode. Ah, but to do that, the government would have to relinquish some control - and THERE lies the rub.

The machinations of government are more concerned with maintaining and growing the size and scope of itself at the expense of the individual.

Some are ok with that.

I am not.
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Old 06-05-2009, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Imaginary Figment
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Thanks for the cut and paste and adding nothing to this thread. Obviously taxes need to be paid. I didn't state that they shouldn't. Im questioning the amount. The amount of waste that comes out of our taxes is a different story.

Care to add something to the thread other than pasting a chain email you received?
You can't have it both ways.

The clip in paste was actually more than enough in that regard.
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Old 06-05-2009, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Imaginary Figment
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Tax reductions spur economic growth.
I keep reading this and wonder if anybody bothered to look out their window over the last eight years?
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Old 06-05-2009, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Too little. Look at 8 years of Bush deficits and ask yourself why didn't we raise taxes to pay for this.
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Old 06-05-2009, 07:32 PM
 
Location: I currently exist only in a state of mind. one too complex for geographic location.
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the federal government is the greediest, most corrupt, and most evil corporation in the world.
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Old 06-05-2009, 07:33 PM
 
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Too little. Look at 8 years of Bush deficits and ask yourself why didn't we raise taxes to pay for this.
Bush let America have it both ways, less taxes, paired with more spending and two wars. Anybody who brought this irresponsible fiscal policy to his attention was 86'd.

That's one of the reasons we are where we are today.
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Old 06-05-2009, 07:34 PM
 
Location: I currently exist only in a state of mind. one too complex for geographic location.
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Too little. Look at 8 years of Bush deficits and ask yourself why didn't we raise taxes to pay for this.
absurd. if we didn't waste money nation building, we would have been fine. iraq is what caused all the deficit, not lack of tax collection.
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Old 06-06-2009, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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absurd. if we didn't waste money nation building, we would have been fine. iraq is what caused all the deficit, not lack of tax collection.
Let's approach this as adults and try to base our conclusions on fact rather than emotion. When Bush took office the National Debt was $5.7 Trillion. When Bush left office the National Debt was $10.7 Trillion. Through 2008 the Iraq War has cost us about $600 Billion.

Now, finalsay let's try to reconcile your emotional outburst with the facts....... [keep trying]
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Old 06-06-2009, 07:01 AM
 
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No, the government doesn't take too much in taxes. They give too much to special interests and their cronies. "The people pay, the people receive the benefit" should be the principle. The bail outs are not for us, they are for those that put the government in office. Wake up! Vote against the incumbent everytime, forever!
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