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04-17-2007, 09:28 PM
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It is NOT a learned behavior, trait, feeling, or whatever. What med school did you go to? Who taught you that? Get your brain in gear and do some research yourself rather than blindly believing what you are told. Is that not the point of education? Going to medical school for 8 years does not raise you upon a pedestal from which you can now preach to the little people and demand that the deny the facts of their life's experience. It educates you in medicine and gives you the tools to help and heal. Is that what you are doing with this post, helping and healing? Do you not swear "to first do no harm?"
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I am a surgeon. I dont have time to do research on this between sewing peoples faces back on after a tragic event. Sorry. And, Yes, it is learned, or a choice. Thats what RESEARCH has found. Not to say that there havent been opposite findings. Like I said a few posts ago, depends on what you want to believe. We could argue both ways. As for what medical school I went to, that is not important. This is my opinion on my belief of research. Not the out spoken opinion of my school's....
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04-17-2007, 09:31 PM
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You list study after study in support but this is like all other topics I can find just as many studies that state to the contrary. It is a matter of what 1 believes. If you lean one way you will use the studies in your favor. The only thing one can do is look at the studies on both sides and make -up there own mind. .
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I agree 100%
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04-17-2007, 09:40 PM
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[quote=saganista;587956] There are no known cases of a man of any sexual orientation giving birth.
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Ya think
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04-17-2007, 09:47 PM
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I am a surgeon. I dont have time to do research on this between sewing peoples faces back on after a tragic event. Sorry. And, Yes, it is learned, or a choice. Thats what RESEARCH has found. Not to say that there havent been opposite findings. Like I said a few posts ago, depends on what you want to believe. We could argue both ways. As for what medical school I went to, that is not important. This is my opinion on my belief of research. Not the out spoken opinion of my school's....
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Then you believe you have made a choice to be a straight person.That would mean you would have to have had thoughts on the other sex, otherwise it wouldnt be a choice.
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04-17-2007, 09:50 PM
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Then you believe you have made a choice to be a straight person.That would mean you would have to have had thoughts on the other sex, otherwise it wouldnt be a choice.
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I never said a thing about "having thoughts". I was raised straight as a child, it was what I knew. Being gay was never a thought for me.
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04-17-2007, 09:54 PM
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I never said a thing about "having thoughts". I was raised straight as a child, it was what I knew. Being gay was never a thought for me.
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So how do the gay people raised by straight parents whom have thoughts of the same sex from early on , fit in?
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04-17-2007, 09:55 PM
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I never said a thing about "having thoughts". I was raised straight as a child, it was what I knew. Being gay was never a thought for me.
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LOL... yeah, and my mother's best friend - a 65 year-old from Bible-thumping parents in West Virginia's mountains - was raised gay?? Mkay.  Or how about my gay friend who was raised by hardcore Baptists in inner-city Cleveland? Do you think he was taught this behavior, by either his aunt/uncle, or the gang members in his neighborhood? I could go on & on, but I think you get the point... then again, maybe you don't.  I'm sorry, but you can't "raise somebody straight", or gay for that matter. On the flip-side to my examples, I also know a STRAIGHT woman who was raised by lesbian parents - go figure.
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04-17-2007, 09:59 PM
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So how do the gay people raised by straight parents whom have thoughts of the same sex from early on , fit in?
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How do killers become who they are? (not that I am comparing) Why do some kids /people like Mexacan food when their parents dont? Why are some kids gothic? Smoke weed? I'm not saying that if your parents are straight, you will be too. I'm saying, I do not believe that it is a trait. Your hair and eye color is a trait. Being gay.... nope, cant see that.
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04-17-2007, 10:04 PM
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How do scerial killers become who they are? (not that I am comparing) Why do some kids /people like Mexacan food when their parents dont? Why are some kids gothic? Smoke weed? I'm not saying that if your parents are straight, you will be too. I'm saying, I do not believe that it is a trait. Your hair and eye color is a trait. Being gay.... nope, cant see that.
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Just because you can't see that, does it make it untrue?? And as I tried to explain earlier, there's a difference between inherited and genetic. For example, I was born with the dislike for fish, but both of my parents love it... so obviously I didn't inherit the dislike from them. Rather, it means that I was BORN with some GENE that makes me hate the taste. See?? Just like with homosexuality, which is a trait that's just part of your genetic makeup... your parents don't give it to you, the randomness of genetics does.
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04-17-2007, 10:06 PM
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P.S. Why am I explaining this to a doctor?? Shouldn't you understand it already, and much better than myself? For goodness sakes, I haven't taken a science class in over 10 years, and never pulled higher than a C in the subject. 
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