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I really don’t know. I personally know a married couple who are staunch republicans and own and run a retail gun store/shooting range. Are they religious? Far from it as they are atheist. I know of a acquaintance of mine who is a republican has two daughters who were pregnant with out husbands at an early age, still not married that I am aware of. By the time they were 17 they were with child and one of the daughters has a felony on her record to boot. The felony was due to a B&E charge/conviction. I know his daughters are not working and as far as I know running the streets getting some sort of assistance from the State… A friend of mine who works at the shipyard is building a pole barn that he is going to stick a furnace in the barn. He cracks on Obama every chance he gets about Obama’s supposed socialism yet he is glad to cash in on his rebate for the furnace his putting in from the result of Obama’s American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009. Just cracks me up! The owner of the Gunshops mother will talk to me, nice lady but will mention somebody who has a new baby and it is usually out of wedlock and the partner is long gone. I just think when the GOP taunts itself as some moral authority party nothing could be further from the truth. I have seen post on this Board that almost suggests that only blacks and Dems are on the government teat, think again. Or the GOP somehow thinks it’s one step closer to heaven? It is kind of mind boggling when I see on this Board that when it comes to Moral / Social Issues that the Conservatives are somehow perceive themselves as immune to life struggles. I guess the point I am trying to make is social struggles do not adhere to party affiliations they know no boundaries.
I have made the same observations. Typically when the word welfare and entitlement comes up it seems to be code word for Blacks. It always seems to center around we are giving and they are taking.
Well, that's why I don't affiliate myself with a political party.
A party has ONE objective and is to get MY vote. It doesn't care about morals or principles...unless it convinces you to vote for their candidate. So political parties will change their spots at the drop of a hat. One decade's republican could be the next decade's democrat.
The people in a political party might change, but the party itself, if it has any meaning, doesn't change. So you know some low lifes and they happen to be republican. Everyone knows people like that, from every party, I'm sure. Most of my family are hard core democrats. I know what they think because I hear them talking all the time. And it's the same thing over and over. The country must be brought to it's knees so we can start over, and everything will be fair for everyone. We will all have health care, no more war or nukes, basically they want to bring the sixties back. MSNBC blaring all the time, and I just laugh. The people, hard core democrats, that I know personally, they are so full of hate for republicans, and they don't know why except to say because all republicans care about is money, and watching fox news, church, working for yourself, having goals for yourself,respecting the military, all that bad stuff. I love my family, but I pity them at the same time.
A true Republican is one that adheres to the foundational economic and foreign policy platforms. I believe that social policy shouldn't affect your ability to participate fully in the Republican Party.
Republicans have lost votes because of failure to communicate social issues well. No Democratic policy makes any sense what-so-ever and I cannot believe how people vote for them. Voting Democratic is what people who don't research candidates do.
A true Republican is one that adheres to the foundational economic and foreign policy platforms. I believe that social policy shouldn't affect your ability to participate fully in the Republican Party.
Republicans have lost votes because of failure to communicate social issues well. No Democratic policy makes any sense what-so-ever and I cannot believe how people vote for them. Voting Democratic is what people who don't research candidates do.
That is not true at all. It is precisely because I research candidates that I vote democratic. I find out candidates positions on privacy rights, spending, taxes, trade, foreign policy and quite frankly I prefer democrats. Both Republicans and democrats spend more money then I would like the difference is Republicans tend to spend it on corporate subsidies, the military and an aggressive foreign policy and democrats tend to spend it on education, the environment and social programs. I find the latter more appealing then the former. Additionally I have met very few democrats who oppose a right to privacy. This is not the case for republicans who want to push anti privacy laws on everything from abortion and contraception to religious practice and homosexuality. Also while I may agree with Republicans on somethings like trade, and eventually tax restructuring, if deficits are controlled, most Republicans are so vehiamently against certain aspects of my philosophy that there is quite frankly not room for both mine and their views in the party. This is just not the case with the democrats on the issues I am more to the right on.
Well, that's why I don't affiliate myself with a political party.
A party has ONE objective and is to get MY vote. It doesn't care about morals or principles...unless it convinces you to vote for their candidate. So political parties will change their spots at the drop of a hat. One decade's republican could be the next decade's democrat.
Whenever there is a Republican that they do not agree with, he/she suddenly "is a liberal in disguise" or "Republican in name."
*rolls eyes*
This is one thing that always kills me about republicans. I'm not saying they are all that way, and it generally seems to be the older group. If you have one liberal view, even at all, you are instantly shouted at as being liberal, i can't even take that stuff, how are you suppose to talk to some one if all that is going to happen is name calling and silly labeling. sorry for the rant
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Well, that's why I don't affiliate myself with a political party.
A party has ONE objective and is to get MY vote. It doesn't care about morals or principles...unless it convinces you to vote for their candidate. So political parties will change their spots at the drop of a hat. One decade's republican could be the next decade's democrat.
On topic here though, i think the OP makes a good point, what does make you republican. However, i will say, the current republicans aren't conservative at all, neo-conservative no doubt. However, i feel there is a issue here, many of the republicans i talk to constantly contradict there own beliefs and values, yet they don't even realize it. I have this ... "friend" and he does't do ANY research into candidates, he probably would have loved Ron Paul but didn't even know he existed, but was going to vote McCain just because he "thought" he shared the same values. Anyways, i work for a small business and the guy i know owns a small busiess. Well, to help him out i was doing work for him just as favors, no money involved, with the expectation that he would be able to help me out in return. .... nope... wasn't even considered, he just tried to take advantage of me... i mean, i was like wait, democrat?
So here is my ultimate point, i think there are large issues, the dems and reps take up these issues VERY STRONGLY, depending on what side your on you ally with one of these parties, even though you probably don't follow anything else the party offers. OK point, people need to really look into what they think they are following and really examine what they are voting for, i think most will find they don't actually relate to what they are voting for.
Now this doesn't really go for any on this board or many on the internet, we tend to be a little bit more informed, but the masses who get all of their information from the mass media.
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