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Health care reform is way too important to leave in the hands of the insurance companies.
We should call our members of Congress and urge them to support HR676.
Show us what the premiums will be under the Federal plan. Another poster in a previous thread posted the employer/employee contributions to the post office's health insurance, and it truly showed that there would be no savings compared to people buying health insurance on their own.
A good question to ask would be why is the federal goverment with all of its employees paying similar premiums as a self employed individual like myself? What happened to the volume discounts?
If they can't get savings in something as simple as this, do you really think they'll be able to greatly reduce health care costs without placing restrictions on services?
Well, PurpleLove08, I'm not sure I agree with the HR676 proposal.
For example, the payroll tax aspect of it gives me some concerns, as does the promise of "open ended" medical care. I don't believe this might be the best approach to the problem.
Before you bash the insurance companies, you best understand insurance theory. It works for all insurance, car, life, home, or health insurance. Are you aware that insurance companies must pay claims in order to make a profit?
There are 100 aspects of the health care debacle. Fix them all, or you might as well fix none. The Demo plan has one and only one plan... throw money at the issue.
What are the aspects, well, there is the religious component, the torts component, the number of medical schools, the cost of becoming a physician, the cost of a medical tool, the cost of getting drugs to the market, the live at any cost component, and the greatest current component: I don't have insurance so I'll go get the same treatments and care as someone who does. Since I don't have any assets, I won't ever have to pay. So either the government pays, or the insured and private payers pay for my lack of desire to work. If you don't think that last line was a fact, how many fat lazy American's sat on the government welfare rolls while millions of aliens (legal and illegal) crossed the borders for the jobs the fat lazy American's either wouldn't take or couldn't take because many of them were in prisons or were cons who couldn't get a job.
So, unless Congress is willing to enforce responsibility on all sectors, there will be no fix to healthcare.
I don't have insurance so I'll go get the same treatments and care as someone who does. Since I don't have any assets, I won't ever have to pay. So either the government pays, or the insured and private payers pay for my lack of desire to work. If you don't think that last line was a fact, how many fat lazy American's sat on the government welfare rolls while millions of aliens (legal and illegal) crossed the borders for the jobs the fat lazy American's either wouldn't take or couldn't take because many of them were in prisons or were cons who couldn't get a job. ( tomocox quote )
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What about those adults with Cerebral Palsy or are intellectually challenged and have outlived their
parents? People in the terminal phase of cancer who are broke from the cost of chemotherapy? The
family bankrupted by the $250,000 per by-pass heart patient? Are people with severe spinal cord
injuries, MS or Lou Gehrig's disease expected to work? And BTW...there was Welfare Reform under
Clinton..I didn't see Bush repealing that. Walk a mile in someone else's shoes before assuming that it's simple laziness.
"We need to make them listen." Well, that assumes that "we" all want the same thing. We don't.
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