Tiller's abortion clinic to close permanently (state, support, guns, doctor)

[AeroGuyDC]

Originally Posted by JetJockey

YES. I am very very pro choice, but do not like abortions. It would be a happy day in my life if every child was planned and wanted, there were no fetal abnormalities and women all had healthy, happy pregnancies. Unfortunately we do not live in that Utopia and therefore must make choices that are not pleasant. Ease of access to all types of birth control including the pill, condoms, diaphragms, patches etc etc should be encouraged by parents and peers and safe sex should be taught to each and every student.

Banning abortion will not stop it. Abortions will not ever stop, they will only become more dangerous. As for myself, if I were to get pregnant and my child had some horrible problem and they would not live past birth I would elect to have an abortion at any stage. Unfortunately now, there are only two doctors that are able to help.

Statistics do not support the notion the abortions are primarily elected due to medical/mother/fetal problems. While it would be nice if most women had your same attitude, the stats show that most people get abortions for less meaningful reasons.

Here is an example of stats:

Reasons given for having abortions in the United States

[newtoli]

Originally Posted by AeroGuyDC

Statistics do not support the notion the abortions are primarily elected due to medical/mother/fetal problems. While it would be nice if most women had your same attitude, the stats show that most people get abortions for less meaningful reasons.

Here is an example of stats:

Reasons given for having abortions in the United States

3rd Trimester abortions are performed for those reasons.

The majority of regular abortions are not (most performed prior to week 11).

[dcsldcd]

Originally Posted by AeroGuyDC

Statistics do not support the notion the abortions are primarily elected due to medical/mother/fetal problems. While it would be nice if most women had your same attitude, the stats show that most people get abortions for less meaningful reasons.

Here is an example of stats:

Reasons given for having abortions in the United States

The pro-abortion crowd are never going to acknowledge the truth or they would want everyone educated on the real facts of what take place in an abortion but they fight against people that expose the truth (it might stop many teens and women from engaging in high risk sex and it would hurt the financials of Planned Parenthood).

[JetJockey]

Originally Posted by dcsldcd

The pro-abortion crowd are never going to acknowledge the truth or they would want everyone educated on the real facts of what take place in an abortion but they fight against people that expose the truth (it might stop many teens and women from engaging in high risk sex and it would hurt the financials of Planned Parenthood).

I know the real facts of what takes place in an abortion. It didn't stop me from having sex. On the flip side, when have the anti-choice people ever shown videos or given out pamphlets that show women dying in childbirth, or deformed fetuses, or stillborn children?

Abortions done early are safer statistically than giving birth.

[Ceece]

MOST abortions are not done for any other reason than the woman doesn't want to be pregnant. MOST of those are done in the first trimester. Those ARE THE FACTS

Another FACT is that late term abortions are NOT done because the woman doesn't want to be pregnant. Those are very much WANTED CHILDREN who just don't have a chance for whatever reason. But these are what the prolife crowd targets because they are obviously more emotional and visual...but that doesn't mean healthy babies are being aborted for no reason. Unfortunately they can't and won't ever be able to get ahold of the women aborting early, or all the Dr's assisting/prescribing meds to them, and that pisses them off.

And as far as a dead fetus goes, if doctors are not TRAINED to perform late term abortions, which is something prolifers want, nobody will have the skill to do it no matter how necessary it is. That is an unfortunate side effect of terrorism and threats of death for even thinking about doing a late term abortion. Again, it's the wrong target...but it's all they have and they won't let go of it. They need someone to hate, and to take their frustrations out on.

The killing of George Tiller does nothing to slow or stop abortions, it only makes it difficult for the rare instances a late term abortion is called for. I wish no woman ever carries a dead fetus or has a need for a late term abortion again, but if they do I hope it's only someone on the prolife side or someone a prolifer cares about. That is all.

[Yeledaf]

Plenty of people on Daily Kos and the Demo Underground spent the last eight years publicly yearning for Bush's death, mocking Tony Snow and his family, and making jokes about Cheney's arterial stents. The radical right certainly has no monopoly on those who would wish harm on others.

[irishvanguard]

Shroeder needs to never see daylight again. That said, there would be a lot healthier outlet for abortion opposition-----if, if-----free speech were not stifled around the perimeter of abortion clinics.

[FinkieMcGee]

Originally Posted by irishvanguard

Shroeder needs to never see daylight again. That said, there would be a lot healthier outlet for abortion opposition-----if, if-----free speech were not stifled around the perimeter of abortion clinics.

Those restrictions would probably be lifted if there was significantly less violence committed by pro-life groups.

[Austin13]

Originally Posted by FinkieMcGee

Those restrictions would probably be lifted if there was significantly less violence committed by pro-life groups.

Right. And when is the line crossed from free speech to harrassment and hate speech?

[sanrene]

Those restrictions would probably be lifted if there was significantly less violence committed by pro-life groups.

Pro-life groups are committing violence. Show me where they do. You have a few insane pro-lifers who are sick enough to commit murder - don't paint the whole community with such a broad brush.

You want to see real violent protesters? Just go to a leftist anti-war rally.