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Same here geeoro I have DIABETES, CLL,& COPD & since 2007 I have had a triple heart by-pass & recently a pace maker fitted.
Thanks to the NHS my cancer, although it's incurable is in remission, I have regular cardiac rehab sessions & my COPD & DIABETES is under control.
In the states I would probably have recieved very little treatment & would not be here today. I should point out the NHS treatment cost me nothing.
I should point out the NHS treatment cost me nothing.
Well, that is not actually true now, is it? Inasmuch as you are a taxpayer - it cost you the taxes. AND, all the other taxpayers in the UK also had to pay for your treatments as well.
Same here geeoro I have DIABETES, CLL,& COPD & since 2007 I have had a triple heart by-pass & recently a pace maker fitted.
Thanks to the NHS my cancer, although it's incurable is in remission, I have regular cardiac rehab sessions & my COPD & DIABETES is under control.
In the states I would probably have recieved very little treatment & would not be here today. I should point out the NHS treatment cost me nothing.
So nice to hear from someone on here that actually knows how a UHC works.
Too many people in America are listening to the outrageous propoganda that is being spread around by people who have health insurance and do not want everyone raining on their parade. They have absolute zero knowledge of a UHC and obviously have a crystal ball which shows them only how a UHC would fail in America. Well here's a newsflash for the Anti UHC brigade........... Other countries have recently created UHC's and they are all doing great!
Some Americans are indoctrinated into the "self sufficient man" model. Hey guess what....there are as many extremely succesfull people in the UK and any other country with a UHC as in America. America has people who will never work through laziness just as any country but America has absolutely nothing to help fellow Americans when they fall upon hard time except half hearted welfare schemes. I hope the days of good honest American's being manipulated and led around by the nose by big corporations will soon come to an end. I have met soooo many fantastic Americans and have amazing neighbours where i live in Texas. They all want America to change.
Nothing is free in this life but there is a big difference between paying what is right for a service as with the NHS in the UK and being totally ripped off as with the Insurance companies in America.
Thank you so much, Albion, for helping to Dispel this total B/S view of a UHC that seems to infect these posts. You know the " A Friend told me" stories.
Good luck with the Cancer and i hope you have many years in remission and you keep well.
Well, that is not actually true now, is it? Inasmuch as you are a taxpayer - it cost you the taxes. AND, all the other taxpayers in the UK also had to pay for your treatments as well.
There are many in the UK who get first class treatment and pay nothing.
I as a tax payer do not mind in the least helping my fellow citizens get great healthcare as i am not as paranoid as the people who obviously feel that their fellow citizens are not worth a small outlay.
Before I retired I was a self employed engineer on permanent retainer to a very large corporation.
One of the benefits of my contract was an excellent medical insurance package paid for in full by my employer.
When my doctor told me that I would need open heart surgery he also said that there was a problem with my bloodwork, this was the CLL.
My company contacted the medical insurer with my doctors diagnosis, a week later my employer told me that the insurer, because of the cancer, would'nt pay for my bi-pass surgery.
I spoke with an NHS surgeon who said that he would operate " no problem " I waited a total of eight days for the operation which was successful.
So I've experienced both non profit & for profit systems, the former saved my life, the latter condemned me.
And really, what it all boils down to is the NHS is free to all at the point of use, in the American system if you or your company can afford medical insurance, well thats great, but if you can't afford it, or your company lay's you off, or you have a pre-existing condition, well tough luck.
When you take into account the tens of thousands of pounds my company paid on my behalf to the insurance company, & despite my doctors diagnosis, my future was decided by a bean counter, just looking to save the company money.
Before I retired I was a self employed engineer on permanent retainer to a very large corporation.
One of the benefits of my contract was an excellent medical insurance package paid for in full by my employer.
When my doctor told me that I would need open heart surgery he also said that there was a problem with my bloodwork, this was the CLL.
My company contacted the medical insurer with my doctors diagnosis, a week later my employer told me that the insurer, because of the cancer, would'nt pay for my bi-pass surgery.
I spoke with an NHS surgeon who said that he would operate " no problem " I waited a total of eight days for the operation which was successful.
So I've experienced both non profit & for profit systems, the former saved my life, the latter condemned me.
And really, what it all boils down to is the NHS is free to all at the point of use, in the American system if you or your company can afford medical insurance, well thats great, but if you can't afford it, or your company lay's you off, or you have a pre-existing condition, well tough luck.
When you take into account the tens of thousands of pounds my company paid on my behalf to the insurance company, & despite my doctors diagnosis, my future was decided by a bean counter, just looking to save the company money.
Try explaining that to millions in America who are soo afraid of leaving the clutches of the Private health companies. I suppose because of the adverse propoganda by self interest people and the fact that most Americans have never ever tried a UHC it is quite understandable but i never would have imagined Americans to be scared of something new...i was wrong.
My wife is American and had surgery in the UK and other treatments and tests. She felt the same as many Americans that a UHC was not as good as Private. She now reads the objections to a UHC on here and quite simply says..........."Idiots"
No one would ever say a UHC was perfect but to a family in America today with no health cover...it sure feels perfect.
Well socialized heath care...Let me give you just one simple example I just run into this morning.
I had a certain routine examination done last week. The radiologist asked me for previous results, X-Rays, etc....I told her that it could be hard for me to get them but I would call The Netherlands, which I did this morning.
I was told I can't get them! Only a doctor can request them and they will be send directly to the Hospital, not to the patient. I asked why and since I'm the patient shouldn't I give some kind of permission to transfer them...The said "NO"...they belong to the hospital and only other doctors (doesn't matter who) can get them...that is how we always we treated...We were told something and never saw the actual reports....all owned by the government...So they don't only tell you where you can go and when you can get your exam be done....all paid by the government or better said by tax payers money, but you aren't even allowed to looki into them. I never realized it so much , but since I'm here for almost 10 years I realize what a great country this is and hopefully it won't be a second Europe!
For the people like me with health ins....Do you want the government to tell which doctor to go to, when you can have you PSA test, mammogram, pap smear and forget the yearly checks...too expensive, just once every 5 year after the age of 50 or in case of a pap smear after the age of 35....
One death is cheaper than having to check every one every year and if the government takes over health care, forget about any lawsuits if the doctors mess up....
Think before you wish what you don't have a clue about and how it is in reality!
The American health-care system is broken...
We rank 37th in health care results - yet we pay more than any other country in the world...
Health Care reform is needed and is finally coming under Obama...
Those who are under-insured or uninsured will benefit greatly - and most Americans are on-board with it...
Nothing will be perfect - but the current system is pretty bad and ineffective for the majority.
We rank 37th in health care results - yet we pay more than any other country in the world...
Health Care reform is needed and is finally coming under Obama...
Those who are under-insured or uninsured will benefit greatly - and most Americans are on-board with it...
Nothing will be perfect - but the current system is pretty bad and ineffective for the majority.
You couldn't be more right.
If a major health care reform is NOT put into place by Obama it will be the equivalent to the recent Iranian Elections.........Going against the opinions of the majority to keep the status quo.
You couldn't be more right.
If a major health care reform is NOT put into place by Obama it will be the equivalent to the recent Iranian Elections.........Going against the opinions of the majority to keep the status quo.
Yes - there will be serious public discontent if the much anticipated health-care reform is not enacted...
Most opposing it are either very well off - and opposed to entitlements for the masses, or they are brain-washed Limbaugh/Hannity/et-al listeners who become hypnotized and brain-washed anytime the world 'socialism' or 'socialized' is mentioned...
I think there must be a subliminal hypnotic suggestion in those talk shows - so whenever those 2 words are uttered - the listener goes into a hypnotic trance - loses the ability to think rationally - and acts like a subservient ditto-head moron...
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