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Old 06-12-2009, 01:20 AM
 
Location: Rural Northern California
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He's a right wing extremist, right wing extremists are the kinds of people who use guns to kill people of other races. He can believe in whatever politics he chooses but they are still racist so they are right wing extemism, liberals dont go out and kill people because of their race. We embrace diversity. Liberals are accused of killing babies, while right wing extremists take up arms and murder abortion doctors.

Thats the script.
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Right wing extremists kill people based on their hatred and racism.

This man was consumed with hatred and racism. Who cares if he likes Bill O'Reilly or not? It only proves he was not a complete idiot if he didn't but nothing else.

Another one just like the DHS report warned us of. Right wing extremists have fertile ground for breeding after the wreckage left behind by the Bush war criminals, who have not only destroyed Iraq but left America battered and reeling from their mismanagement.

All this economic unrest they left Pres. Obama only makes right wing extremists more dangerous, just like Hitler manipulated in the aftermath of WWI.

This guy was a fan of Hitler, and many right wing extremists share that feeling
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Sure seems like it to me. Hitler and his gang were right wing extremists, and so were/are the neoconservative Republicans and their supporters

Let's set the record strait, as I've seen this line of thinking pop up around here a lot recently. Now, I'm not really sure if the above posts are an attempt at over the top sarcasm or not, but it doesn't really matter for purpose of my post.

Hitler and the Nazis were not right wing extremists in any way, shape, or form, and the vast majority of their philosophies and beliefs conflict deeply with true conservatism, and for the most part, also with what has been called modern 'neoconservatism.' The Nazi's supported gun control, didn't believe in individual property rights, didn't believe in the established organized religions, were socialists, were not fans of freedom or liberty, believed that the state owned the people, forced people to have abortions (and forcefully prevented others from doing so), were vehemently anti-capitalism, etc. In fact, the word "nazi" was slang for the term "to nationalize," as the official name for Hitler's chronies was the "National Socialist German Workers Party." During the Third Reich, those who spoke out against the Third Reich were labeled as 'reactionary conservatives' (sound familiar?).

The only reason that anybody believes that the Nazis are 'right-wing extremists' is because of a misguided need to have an opposite extreme to counterbalance communism on the political spectrum. The fact is, both nazism and communism are extreme left-wing philosophies, although it just so happens that the Nazis hated the Communists (and vice-versa). In truth, they're different heads of the same coin.

Now, you can draw vague similarities between fascism and neoconservatism (though not true conservatism), but you can also draw vague similarities between fascism and modern liberalism. In that same vain, the argument that conservatives are 'anti-diversity' and (modern progressive) liberals 'embrace' diversity is laughable, at best. One the primary tenants of conservatism is individualism. I know it has become overused lately as a right-wing talking point, but the smallest minority truly is the individual. Democrats (many, not all) tend to view institutionalized racism as not only tolerable, but indeed often times preferable. Take affirmative action for example: how can any policy that would assign greater merit to an individual based only on the color of their skin be anything but racist? The best defense that you can make for it is that it somehow corrects for inequality in starting conditions, but it fails to account for the fact that the people that get 'screwed' by the system had nothing to do with said original inequality, and their only crime is having been born into a place of better standing. What's the moral of the story here? Racism is okay as long it's done by the government? Also, going back in history, which party was responsible for the Jim Crow Laws and the segregated South? The Democrats. Which party filibustered the civil rights acts of 1957, 1960, and 1964? The Democrats. Which party did FDR belong to when he signed Executive Order 9066, which sent 120,000 Japanese (most of them citizens) to internment camps for the duration of world war 2? Democrat.

Does this mean that there are no racist conservatives? Clearly no, but to claim that somehow the left is above racism and that to be racist one has to be on the right is completely and totally false. We would be wise to take heed:

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

What happened to this? Does Dr. King sound like somebody who would be in favor of affirmative action? I honestly don't know if he was either way, but it seems like he'd be the first to advocate a color-blind society, which is not something modern Liberals seem to be comfortable with.
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Old 06-12-2009, 01:22 AM
 
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- LIARS, MURDERERS,RATS, AND THIEVES. James von Brunn (http://www.arsenalofhypocrisy.com/blog/?p=537 - broken link)

Looks like liberals do have something in common with the man.


And yet liberals try to brainwash people into believing the very false lie White supremacists are basically cheerleaders for the Fox News Channel and the Republican Party.

If you do some researching of threads on Stormfront you will see that they hate the GOP and the FNC as much as liberals do.
Why put Bill O'Reilly in the mix??? Guy is right down the middle and states only facts and he is very smart! He is charitable and helps out the needed.
You have it wrong on Bill Bro!
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Old 06-12-2009, 02:50 AM
 
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What do you think of these Black leftwing extremists that went around murdering White people.
Zebra murders - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Nope. Right-wingers.
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Old 06-12-2009, 03:12 AM
 
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I guess you haven't been keeping abreast of the news. The guy is a leftist - pure and simple. And I believe also a registered democrat (being confirmed).
So out of all of the hundreds, if not thousands, of white supremacist psychopaths in the U.S., you found one who is a Democrat? Bravo...
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Old 06-12-2009, 07:31 AM
 
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- LIARS, MURDERERS,RATS, AND THIEVES. James von Brunn (http://www.arsenalofhypocrisy.com/blog/?p=537 - broken link)

Looks like liberals do have something in common with the man.


And yet liberals try to brainwash people into believing the very false lie White supremacists are basically cheerleaders for the Fox News Channel and the Republican Party.

If you do some researching of threads on Stormfront you will see that they hate the GOP and the FNC as much as liberals do.
Intelligent Republicans -- the ones who voted for Obama in the last election -- also "hate" BillO and the rest. But they wouldnt call themselves liberals.

Your second sentence is a fallacy.

Your third sentence...I'll leave the Stormfront reading to you.
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Old 06-12-2009, 07:33 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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I guess you haven't been keeping abreast of the news. The guy is a leftist - pure and simple. And I believe also a registered democrat (being confirmed).
Really?

Obama 'created by Jews,' museum killing suspect wrote - CNN.com

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A notebook found in his car after the shooting declared, "You want my weapons -- this is how you'll get them," according to investigators.
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The Holocaust is a lie. Obama was created by Jews. Obama does what Jew owners tell him to do. Jews captured America's money. Jews control the mass media. The 1st Amendment is abrogated --henceforth," v
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"There is no Obama documentation -- no records -- no paper trail -- none -- this is no accident. It is being done on purpose with Media help -- but to serve whom & why???"
Yeah, what a lefty.
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Old 06-12-2009, 07:34 AM
 
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- LIARS, MURDERERS,RATS, AND THIEVES. James von Brunn (http://www.arsenalofhypocrisy.com/blog/?p=537 - broken link)

Looks like liberals do have something in common with the man.


And yet liberals try to brainwash people into believing the very false lie White supremacists are basically cheerleaders for the Fox News Channel and the Republican Party.

If you do some researching of threads on Stormfront you will see that they hate the GOP and the FNC as much as liberals do.
I think that WHO he hates is not as important as WHY he hates them. That would be more informative about his political orientation.
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Old 06-12-2009, 07:34 AM
 
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Read the link folks, this guy clearly was no fan of the right wing. He sounds more like Jeremiah Wright than Rush Limbaugh.
He's received seven honorary doctorates, too? Wow!
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Old 06-12-2009, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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He's a right wing extremist, right wing extremists are the kinds of people who use guns to kill people of other races. He can believe in whatever politics he chooses but they are still racist so they are right wing extemism, liberals dont go out and kill people because of their race. We embrace diversity. Liberals are accused of killing babies, while right wing extremists take up arms and murder abortion doctors.

Thats the script.

Was the thug in Oakland that murdered 4 cops a right wing extremist? That cant be right...the right wing is all white guys remember?
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Old 06-12-2009, 07:39 AM
 
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I guess you haven't been keeping abreast of the news. The guy is a leftist - pure and simple. And I believe also a registered democrat (being confirmed).
He's not a leftist.

Conservative commentators, rather than logically evaluating his political stances, are simply rejecting that any of those political stances evolved from right-leaning positions. They are adopting the position, "He's not one of ours, he must be one of yours."

His association over the years with the Aryan Nation make it clear he is not leftist in any way.
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